Will this really improve my CPU/GFX performance overall or no?

If I upgrade my current specs (just adding a 2GB single stick in, total RAM will be 3GB), will this help a lot or just a little to the point where it%26#39;s not worth $139.95 for a 2GB RAM DDRII 800MHz stick. Good deal or no? I have Vista Ultimate 64-bit, as you can see in my signature. Should I buy this stick or will it not help me at all? Will loading times move much faster on Rainbow Six Vegas; Ghost Recon: AW; BattleField II 2142; Halo 2; etc.? Will this really improve my CPU/GFX performance overall or no?
For use in Vista, you will see a slight performance increase. In games however, theres next to no difference. Will this really improve my CPU/GFX performance overall or no?
You will notice a difference, in loading times and overall gameplay, especially while running vista. That and you will be future proofing you PC a little more.
[QUOTE=''_Dark_Knight_'']You will definitely notice a difference, in loading times and overall gameplay, especially while running vista. That and you will be future proofing you PC a little more.[/QUOTE] So is the price worth it? Also, why does the other guy say I won%26#39;t notice a difference in gaming? So, I need to get the 6000+ and 8GB of RAM to run Vegas all on high?
i think the best option for you is to upgrade just 1 gig of ram, youll notice a jump from 1 to 2, but hardly any doing 3 gigs, just not worth it. and save your money so maybe in a year you can get a nice dual core cpu. also if you got extra money get good cooling, when parts are cooler they run better
I went from 2-3GB, and it yielded little to no performance gain, but it gave me some needed headroom. 1-3GB should be noticable.
[QUOTE=''ncderek'']i think the best option for you is to upgrade just 1 gig of ram, youll notice a jump from 1 to 2, but hardly any doing 3 gigs, just not worth it. and save your money so maybe in a year you can get a nice dual core cpu. also if you got extra money get good cooling, when parts are cooler they run better[/QUOTE] Maybe you didn%26#39;t read my specs, I have a 4200+ Dual Core or did you mean I need a better CPU? So, you think I should just upgrade from 1GB to another 1GB? Why would I do that? Especially if I have Vista Ultimate 64-bit, wouldn%26#39;t I need 4GB to get the BEST performance? Also, what about for Rainbow Six Vegas? Should I just return the RAM and get another 512MB RAM and a 5600+ processor?
[QUOTE=''ATLReppa770''][QUOTE=''ncderek'']i think the best option for you is to upgrade just 1 gig of ram, youll notice a jump from 1 to 2, but hardly any doing 3 gigs, just not worth it. and save your money so maybe in a year you can get a nice dual core cpu. also if you got extra money get good cooling, when parts are cooler they run better[/QUOTE] Maybe you didn%26#39;t read my specs, I have a 4200+ Dual Core or did you mean I need a better CPU? So, you think I should just upgrade from 1GB to another 1GB? Why would I do that? Especially if I have Vista Ultimate 64-bit, wouldn%26#39;t I need 4GB to get the BEST performance? Also, what about for Rainbow Six Vegas? Should I just return the RAM and get another 512MB RAM and a 5600+ processor?[/QUOTE]He%26#39;s right and you%26#39;re wrong. You dont need 4GB of RAM to run anything. Neither vista, nor any game requires 4GB of RAM. End of RAM discussion right there.2GB of RAM is enough for all games out currently. Rainbox 6 Vegas is a terribly optimised game which is very very poorly programmed thus the bad performance, so i hardly think that game should be the benchmark fo you. You will benifit more with a faster processor as yours is pretty slow compared to your GPU. 
Sell your 2 512%26#39;s and buy 2 1gbs. 2 1gb sticks in dual chan will be better. And then you leave room for better expansion options latter on. If you want more than get 2 2gb sticks or 4 1gb sticks, selling the RAM you already have should make that possible for almost the same moneywise.Loading times won%26#39;t really increas that much as the main factor in that is your hdd.
[QUOTE=''TheDarthvader''] [QUOTE=''ATLReppa770''][QUOTE=''ncderek'']i think the best option for you is to upgrade just 1 gig of ram, youll notice a jump from 1 to 2, but hardly any doing 3 gigs, just not worth it. and save your money so maybe in a year you can get a nice dual core cpu. also if you got extra money get good cooling, when parts are cooler they run better[/QUOTE] Maybe you didn%26#39;t read my specs, I have a 4200+ Dual Core or did you mean I need a better CPU? So, you think I should just upgrade from 1GB to another 1GB? Why would I do that? Especially if I have Vista Ultimate 64-bit, wouldn%26#39;t I need 4GB to get the BEST performance? Also, what about for Rainbow Six Vegas? Should I just return the RAM and get another 512MB RAM and a 5600+ processor?[/QUOTE]He%26#39;s right and you%26#39;re wrong. You dont need 4GB of RAM to run anything. Neither vista, nor any game requires 4GB of RAM. End of RAM discussion right there.2GB of RAM is enough for all games out currently. Rainbox 6 Vegas is a terribly optimised game which is very very poorly programmed thus the bad performance, so i hardly think that game should be the benchmark fo you. You will benifit more with a faster processor as yours is pretty slow compared to your GPU. [/QUOTE] I can%26#39;t be wrong, I asked nothing but questions. So far, Rainbow Six Vegas and Spider-Man 3 have been the hardest games to play with my current setup, mainly because of long loading times, even when all graphical settings are set to low.   [QUOTE=''elmer92413''] Sell your 2 512%26#39;s and buy 2 1gbs. 2 1gb sticks in dual chan will be better. And then you leave room for better expansion options latter on. If you want more than get 2 2gb sticks or 4 1gb sticks, selling the RAM you already have should make that possible for almost the same moneywise.Loading times won%26#39;t really increas that much as the main factor in that is your hdd.[/QUOTE] Also, why wouldn%26#39;t loading times go faster, I mean in games, things will load much faster, right? Also, they sell 512MB DDR II RAM for $17 on eBay (shipped), around that price. No point of selling the RAM if that happens, that%26#39;s IF it sells. Why would I get rid of the 2 slots by selling the RAM sticks and replacing them with more sticks? Wouldn%26#39;t it be better if I got two 2GB RAM sticks (800MHz) and then it%26#39;ll be in dual-channel mode. Is 4GB (2x 2GB) in dual-channel better than four 1GB%26#39;s?
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Ewwww.... an 8800 gts 640 on a 17'' crt? How about you buy another gig then get a better monitor.
[QUOTE=''TheDarthvader''][QUOTE=''ATLReppa770''][QUOTE=''ncderek'']i think the best option for you is to upgrade just 1 gig of ram, youll notice a jump from 1 to 2, but hardly any doing 3 gigs, just not worth it. and save your money so maybe in a year you can get a nice dual core cpu. also if you got extra money get good cooling, when parts are cooler they run better[/QUOTE] Maybe you didn%26#39;t read my specs, I have a 4200+ Dual Core or did you mean I need a better CPU? So, you think I should just upgrade from 1GB to another 1GB? Why would I do that? Especially if I have Vista Ultimate 64-bit, wouldn%26#39;t I need 4GB to get the BEST performance? Also, what about for Rainbow Six Vegas? Should I just return the RAM and get another 512MB RAM and a 5600+ processor?[/QUOTE]He%26#39;s right and you%26#39;re wrong. You dont need 4GB of RAM to run anything. Neither vista, nor any game requires 4GB of RAM. End of RAM discussion right there.2GB of RAM is enough for all games out currently. Rainbox 6 Vegas is a terribly optimised game which is very very poorly programmed thus the bad performance, so i hardly think that game should be the benchmark fo you. You will benifit more with a faster processor as yours is pretty slow compared to your GPU. [/QUOTE]Lies I use 4 gigs of ram maxed all the time in video processing :) BTW vista uses 2 gigs of ram idle on me.
[QUOTE=''ATLReppa770'']Also, why wouldn%26#39;t loading times go faster, I mean in games, things will load much faster, right? Also, they sell 512MB DDR II RAM for $17 on eBay (shipped), around that price. No point of selling the RAM if that happens, that%26#39;s IF it sells. Why would I get rid of the 2 slots by selling the RAM sticks and replacing them with more sticks? Wouldn%26#39;t it be better if I got two 2GB RAM sticks (800MHz) and then it%26#39;ll be in dual-channel mode. Is 4GB (2x 2GB) in dual-channel better than four 1GB%26#39;s?[/QUOTE]Game levels load from your hard drive, not your RAM - RAM does store certain portions of a game once you%26#39;re loaded off the hard drive, but most games don%26#39;t use 1GB of RAM on their own (not including anything else your computer is doing), so unless you%26#39;ve got a lot of stuff running at once, more than 2GB is generally considered unnecessary for a gamer. Now, $140 isn%26#39;t a bad price for a 2GB stick - but to be honest, I don%26#39;t really see the point for your rig. By the time you should consider upgrading, DDR3 will be here - better to pick up two 1GB sticks, since I%26#39;m reasonably sure that your motherboard can run two dual-channel RAM setups (2x1GB and 2x512MB). Dual-channel RAM generally offers between 5-15% performance over a single stick of the same amount, so it%26#39;s not as if you%26#39;re losing half your performance, but it%26#39;s still a considerable amount. 3GB will give you a lot of breathing room - more than enough to carry you to your next build.  Do bear in mind that this will not affect loading times for a game - what it will help out with (in current games over your 1GB setup) is the hitching you may occasionally run into when you%26#39;ve been running around in a game for a while. Take Oblivion for example - you%26#39;ve been running around with consistant frame-rates in one area, and then the game stutters for a few seconds with no apparent change in GPU/CPU load (new enemies, excessive 3D objects, etc.) What happens there is that your RAM is full of game information, and has to revert to the hard drive for some game information. More RAM can help that, but only to a point.
[QUOTE=''el_carl'']Ewwww.... an 8800 gts 640 on a 17'' crt? How about you buy another gig then get a better monitor.[/QUOTE] :lol: :lol: :lol: Nice 1, IMO just get 1 xtra gig-o-ram thats all you need for now!
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/2gb-ram_5.html negligible different between 1gb and 2gb ram in games. this article is a year old though, but probably still true. but if you really feel you need ram  2gb DDR2-1000 ram for $110 if you sign up with google checkout.http://www.buy.com/prod/Crucial_Ballistix_Tracer_2GB_2_X_1GB_PC2_8000_1000MHz_240_pin_DDR2/q/loc/101/204538864.html?adid=17662  
[QUOTE=''RayvinAzn''][QUOTE=''ATLReppa770''] Also, why wouldn%26#39;t loading times go faster, I mean in games, things will load much faster, right? Also, they sell 512MB DDR II RAM for $17 on eBay (shipped), around that price. No point of selling the RAM if that happens, that%26#39;s IF it sells. Why would I get rid of the 2 slots by selling the RAM sticks and replacing them with more sticks? Wouldn%26#39;t it be better if I got two 2GB RAM sticks (800MHz) and then it%26#39;ll be in dual-channel mode. Is 4GB (2x 2GB) in dual-channel better than four 1GB%26#39;s?[/QUOTE]Game levels load from your hard drive, not your RAM - RAM does store certain portions of a game once you%26#39;re loaded off the hard drive, but most games don%26#39;t use 1GB of RAM on their own (not including anything else your computer is doing), so unless you%26#39;ve got a lot of stuff running at once, more than 2GB is generally considered unnecessary for a gamer. Now, $140 isn%26#39;t a bad price for a 2GB stick - but to be honest, I don%26#39;t really see the point for your rig. By the time you should consider upgrading, DDR3 will be here - better to pick up two 1GB sticks, since I%26#39;m reasonably sure that your motherboard can run two dual-channel RAM setups (2x1GB and 2x512MB). Dual-channel RAM generally offers between 5-15% performance over a single stick of the same amount, so it%26#39;s not as if you%26#39;re losing half your performance, but it%26#39;s still a considerable amount. 3GB will give you a lot of breathing room - more than enough to carry you to your next build.  Do bear in mind that this will not affect loading times for a game - what it will help out with (in current games over your 1GB setup) is the hitching you may occasionally run into when you%26#39;ve been running around in a game for a while. Take Oblivion for example - you%26#39;ve been running around with consistant frame-rates in one area, and then the game stutters for a few seconds with no apparent change in GPU/CPU load (new enemies, excessive 3D objects, etc.) What happens there is that your RAM is full of game information, and has to revert to the hard drive for some game information. More RAM can help that, but only to a point. [/QUOTE] Yeah, that happens to me frequently in games such as: Prey; GTA: SA; NFS: Carbon; NFS: Most Wanted; Devil May Cry 3 PC. - But I was thinking of selling my 512%26#39;s, that way I am able to gain two more slots and just put in the 2GB stick, since my other 512%26#39;s are at 533MHz, where the 2GB stick would run at 800MHz and I%26#39;ll OC it to 1066MHz, I can%26#39;t do that if my 512%26#39;s are in there. I wanted to get a SINGLE 2GB stick because I%26#39;m trying to save slots, since DDR3 won%26#39;t be a standard til%26#39; around Q4 2007/Q1 2008, right? Is it going to be that big of a deal? I could just keeping buying 2GB sticks and put them all in dual-channel mode, which would make 8GB, but I obviously don%26#39;t need that much RAM.[QUOTE=''Glordit''] [QUOTE=''el_carl'']Ewwww.... an 8800 gts 640 on a 17'' crt? How about you buy another gig then get a better monitor.[/QUOTE] :lol: :lol: :lol: Nice 1, IMO just get 1 xtra gig-o-ram thats all you need for now![/QUOTE] I was also considering a monitor, I was thinking about picking up the ACER 22'' that is so popular or the 226BW. But would the 1680x1200 be a big difference from what I have now (1152x1024)?
You need a new screen before you get anything. Whats teh point of having amazing specs if your looking at a 17 in CRT
1) BUY A NEW MONITOR! That 8800 GTS is getting bottlenecked like mad!2) Don%26#39;t throw your memory out of dual channle mode. AMD systems are much more vulnerable to memory performance hits due to the nature of the IMC. Buy another set of 2 x 512MB RAM. 2GB is all you really need.3) BUY A NEW MONITOR--Oh wait...4) Also, try and get a faster CPU or try overclocking it.5) BUY A NEW MONITOR--s**t! 
[QUOTE=''Wesker776''] 1) BUY A NEW MONITOR! That 8800 GTS is getting bottlenecked like mad!2) Don%26#39;t throw your memory out of dual channle mode. AMD systems are much more vulnerable to memory performance hits due to the nature of the IMC. Buy another set of 2 x 512MB RAM. 2GB is all you really need.3) BUY A NEW MONITOR--Oh wait...4) Also, try and get a faster CPU or try overclocking it.5) BUY A NEW MONITOR--s**t! [/QUOTE]  I have the money to buy a new one and get the 8GB sticks, but it%26#39;s about spending the money the right way. Should I just buy a monitor and add another 2x 512%26#39;s? Also, which monitor?