Is this a good Monitor?

http://www.benq.com/products/LCD/?product=997%26page=features ^^ looks pretty good to me, what do you guys think?I%26#39;m thinking about getting it for my pc and ps3 Is this a good Monitor?
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Is this a good Monitor?
ive never seen a design like that, looks expensive, what does it have that others dont have?
It says ''16ms( 6ms GTG) / 12ms (MPRT)''That absolutely horrible for gaming. You will notice lots of ghosting, especially because it is so big. Get one that is at least 5ms (not gtg) 
1920x1200... thats good res. however its only 12 ms. id recommend about a max of 8ms for gaming. but for just average things, its great.
[QUOTE=''doomsdaydave11''] It says ''16ms( 6ms GTG) / 12ms (MPRT)''That absolutely horrible for gaming. You will notice lots of ghosting, especially because it is so big. Get one that is at least 5ms (not gtg) [/QUOTE]I dunno where u got that info but it says its 12ms. Which is pretty bad for gaming... you should look for a screen that has 8ms max.
I%26#39;d get a dell. It%26#39;s contrast ratio is the same 1000:1 and its the saem res/size. You can still hook up your ps3 to it, but though component instead of hdmi.http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us%26l=en%26s=dhs%26cs=19%26sku=320-4335 
Yeah, even with the high ms rate it has a special thingy though, look in the descriptionsee people like it on newegg:   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014133  bump :D

[QUOTE=''reddemon502'']Yeah, even with the high ms rate it has a special thingy though, look in the descriptionsee people like it on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014133 bump :D
[/QUOTE]if you are referring to the ''(6ms GTG)'' then I%26#39;m sorry, it%26#39;s still not very good. the ''GTG'' means that it is 6ms Gray to Gray, it is not true 6ms response time.That monitor is way too expensive anyway. Get this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116060  
[QUOTE=''doomsdaydave11''][QUOTE=''reddemon502'']Yeah, even with the high ms rate it has a special thingy though, look in the descriptionsee people like it on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014133 bump :D
[/QUOTE]if you are referring to the ''(6ms GTG)'' then I%26#39;m sorry, it%26#39;s still not very good. the ''GTG'' means that it is 6ms Gray to Gray, it is not true 6ms response time.That monitor is way too expensive anyway. Get this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116060 [/QUOTE] The resolution and screen size sucks on that oneand btw, right now i have a 5ms monitor and it looks beautiful, 6 wont make a difference 
[QUOTE=''reddemon502''][QUOTE=''doomsdaydave11''][QUOTE=''reddemon502'']Yeah, even with the high ms rate it has a special thingy though, look in the descriptionsee people like it on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014133 bump :D
[/QUOTE]if you are referring to the ''(6ms GTG)'' then I%26#39;m sorry, it%26#39;s still not very good. the ''GTG'' means that it is 6ms Gray to Gray, it is not true 6ms response time.That monitor is way too expensive anyway. Get this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116060 [/QUOTE] The resolution and screen size sucks on that oneand btw, right now i have a 5ms monitor and it looks beautiful, 6 wont make a difference [/QUOTE]you don%26#39;t get it. 6ms (GTG) is not nearly as fast as plain 6ms. It is still a 12ms monitor. There will be huge amounts of ghosting. 
Looks ugly, looks expensive. There are better 24inch pc monitors that all have the same resolution. Pretty sure you can find one for cheaper too.
[QUOTE=''doomsdaydave11''][QUOTE=''reddemon502''][QUOTE=''doomsdaydave11''][QUOTE=''reddemon502''] Yeah, even with the high ms rate it has a special thingy though, look in the descriptionsee people like it on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014133 bump :D[/QUOTE]if you are referring to the ''(6ms GTG)'' then I%26#39;m sorry, it%26#39;s still not very good. the ''GTG'' means that it is 6ms Gray to Gray, it is not true 6ms response time.That monitor is way too expensive anyway. Get this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116060 [/QUOTE] The resolution and screen size sucks on that oneand btw, right now i have a 5ms monitor and it looks beautiful, 6 wont make a difference [/QUOTE]you don%26#39;t get it. 6ms (GTG) is not nearly as fast as plain 6ms. It is still a 12ms monitor. There will be huge amounts of ghosting. [/QUOTE] pick up the 24inch syncmaster, or go for a dell. Will yield far better results and cost a lot less money
[QUOTE=''doomsdaydave11''][QUOTE=''reddemon502''][QUOTE=''doomsdaydave11''][QUOTE=''reddemon502'']Yeah, even with the high ms rate it has a special thingy though, look in the descriptionsee people like it on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014133 bump :D
[/QUOTE]if you are referring to the ''(6ms GTG)'' then I%26#39;m sorry, it%26#39;s still not very good. the ''GTG'' means that it is 6ms Gray to Gray, it is not true 6ms response time.That monitor is way too expensive anyway. Get this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116060 [/QUOTE] The resolution and screen size sucks on that oneand btw, right now i have a 5ms monitor and it looks beautiful, 6 wont make a difference [/QUOTE]you don%26#39;t get it. 6ms (GTG) is not nearly as fast as plain 6ms. It is still a 12ms monitor. There will be huge amounts of ghosting. [/QUOTE] ummmm, a 16ms refresh is all you need. Infact 16ms is the same as a 60hz on a CRT. So unless you%26#39;ve got a killer rig that is able to output more than 60fps all the time there is no real need for anything faster than 16ms.

the bees

New build: Best way to flash BIOS before installing OS?

I%26#39;m going to be putting together a new machine in a couple weeks. I%26#39;m going to be getting an Asus P5B-E with an E6600, SATA HDD, SATA DVD-RW, 2GB DDR800, and probably a 7900GS (still considering an 8800GTS).   I%26#39;ll be installing XP on the clean WD Caviar 160GB SATA drive.  I%26#39;d like to update the BIOS before starting the XP install, thats a good idea, right?  Should I get a floppy drive and connect it using the IDE drive just for doing the BIOS flash? Is it possible to use a USB drive or Asus tool that doesn%26#39;t need an OS?I can post the exact specs if necessary. I%26#39;ve been molding the perfect wish list on newegg.  New build: Best way to flash BIOS before installing OS?
You can use a USB key if your mobo supports booting from USB keys. You need to make your USB key bootable though, which is somewhat involved.New build: Best way to flash BIOS before installing OS?
Ok, so it sounds like getting the update onto a floppy disc would be easiest.  Does it pretty much involve getting the file onto a floppy disc and making the floppy drive 1st in the boot order and it executes appropriately?
I can think of three solutions:Many newer motherboards have a bios flasher integrated. That is, when you start the computer, there is a prompt that tell you something like ''press F2'' to go to flash utility. So you only need to provide the bios image file. Sometimes theses utilities support usb flash drives or cd-rom drives, else a floppy disk will work. Look at you motherboard manual to know if you can do this. Other than that, you can burn a DOS boot cd. When you have booted the cd, just execute the flash utility thatyou put on another part of the cd, another cd or even a floppy disk together with the bios image. You can also use a DOS boot floppy if your computer still has one. 
Cool, thanks for the help.

Need help access 2003 (sry)

Hi GuysNot really a hardware problem, more of a programe/software trouble.My mate was saving his work but he pulled out the USB flash drive before he finished saving it. When he tries to reopen it its corrupted. My mates has been saving his work all night and he was working on microsoft access. Any ways to get his work back at all?Its kinda late here in the UK but if you could give an answer or tell me if this is possable or not,it would be ace!Many thanks   (edit: so sorry i couldn%26#39;t find a more sutiable place to ask)   Need help access 2003 (sry)
oh man, yur screwed...Need help access 2003 (sry)
ha ha i knew id get that reply
Its not for me in all honestIve tried using a couple tools to try to get it back...no luck
I thought id try the almightly Gamespot forum, works for me when i got a question or problem
spose it dont work becuase its not MY problemshame Keep your post coming please 

G.P.U help

I am building a gaming PC and am having some trouble figuring out which G.P.U to use I was wondering if I should just go out and buy a DX10 card like the evga geforce 8800gts or get a DX9 card like a 7900gs or an X1950PRO. I am wondering how long I could go with one of those DX9 cards before having to upgrade to a better DX10 card and If i get a DX9 card should I get XP or vista?G.P.U help
Also I should probaly mention that I am gonna want to run games on med/high setting at pretty high FPS I will probaly be using an old CRT monitor at 1280x1024 also.
G.P.U help
if you have the money get the 320mb 8800GTS
Depends on what games you want to play. Right off the bat I%26#39;d say get the DX10 card over the DX9 card. But if you aren%26#39;t concered about playing some of the newer games in DX10 then no need to bother with a DX10 card. Although price wise you can probable get a good DX10 card for roughly the same amount of money as a comparable DX9 card. And then it%26#39;s just a question of why not?Vista requires a DX9 card so if you want Vista no need to not get it, regardless of which GPU you end up getting. 

couple questions about regarding this memory

I found this memory from Geil. My first question is, how do you guys think it will do for OCing?Second, If I built a PC with a motherbaord that has a P965 express chipset, would it be compatible? I ask this because it is using 1.9V, and is 4-4-4 timing, and the notice on every single motherboard sporting the P965 express chipset says it only supports DDR2800 with 1.8V, and 5-5-5, or 6-6-6 timingscouple questions about regarding this memory
anyone?couple questions about regarding this memory
OC%26#39;d RAM is overrated and rarely worth it. Money%26#39;s better spent on more RAM, better CPU, or better GPU. And if your mobo only supports limited voltages and memory timing why bother with RAM to overclock it? But otherwise from the comments on Newegg it looks like it OC%26#39;s nicely. And if you really want this RAM best get a mobo that supports it and has good support for RAM OC%26#39;ing.
[QUOTE=''elmer92413'']OC%26#39;d RAM is overrated and rarely worth it. Money%26#39;s better spent on more RAM, better CPU, or better GPU. And if your mobo only supports limited voltages and memory timing why bother with RAM to overclock it? But otherwise from the comments on Newegg it looks like it OC%26#39;s nicely. And if you really want this RAM best get a mobo that supports it and has good support for RAM OC%26#39;ing.[/QUOTE] that doesn%26#39;t quite answer my question
There aren%26#39;t too many motherboards out there that only support those settings - those might be all the motherboard will recognize without going into your BIOS, but I can%26#39;t think of any P965 retail boards that don%26#39;t allow you to tweak/overclock your RAM to run DDR2 800 RAM @ 4-4-4-12 w/ 1.9v if that%26#39;s what they%26#39;re specified to be able to. You may have to go into your BIOS to get those settings, but since you%26#39;re thinking about overclocking anyway, that shouldn%26#39;t be a problem for you.

any more news on the R600 release?

topicany more news on the R600 release?
I know the X2900XTX will use 240w of frekin power from the psu lol thats alot!any more news on the R600 release?
Yeah, buy an 8800 =P But seriously, I haven%26#39;t heard too much else other than all the crap that%26#39;s been floating around this board and a few tech sites.
[QUOTE=''LouieV13'']I know the X2900XTX will use 240w of frekin power from the psu lol thats alot![/QUOTE]Not currently possible...Stock HD2900xt:
Slot = 75w
2x6pin = 150w
Total = 225wOnly 225w at max under a full load at stock, we will have to see how many apps/games will come close to stressing this/needing all this power.Now overclocking the HD2900xt:
Slot = 75w
6pin = 75w
8pin = 100w
Total = 250w The stock cooler, according to AMD, can only dissipate up to 240w.Currently there is no XTX, so I don%26#39;t know why you brought it up... 

Quick Monitor Question.

I know this may be a stupid question, but Im a little confused.  Currently I have a pretty crappy dell Monitor that has a max resolution of 1280*1024@60Hz.  My GPU is a 7950GT and I was wondering that if I got a better monitor that could run  1280*1024@85Hz, would I see any improvement in FPS playing games?  The reason I ask is because I heard that a crappy monitor can bottleneck a good GPU.  Any help or info would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you in advance.Quick Monitor Question.
if you have 2 monitors, both on the same resolution, with the same video card, it wont increase the fps. if you get a better monitor that can run 1600x1200, your vid card can handle it, and the game will look better, but generally the lower the resolution the better the fps. but why have such a good video card and only run games on a low resolution? if you upgrade a monitor, get something nice, not just the same thing but newer. keeping the same monitor and lowering the resolution would increase fps, or keeping the same resolution and getting a better vid card would increase fps, or lowering other settings. hope that helps, the vid card still has to load the same amount of pixelsQuick Monitor Question.
Thank you for the help.  The reason Im a little concerned is because people claimed to be getting great FPS in games like  oblivion at 1280*1024 with the GPU I currently have, while I seem to be getting poor FPS at that res.  I thought it would be the crappy monitor bottlenecking the powerful card.  Nothing else in my system is poor performance wise except the monitor.
well if someone has the exact same processor, ram, motherboard, amount of processes running in the backround, same video card, and resolution, as you and getting a better fps than you, then it might be they have lower settings on, such as something like antialiasing or v sync or textures lower than you. or they might have the same settings as you, but better processor or more ram, or less stuff running in the backround

the bees

why is the Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 so much money?

i was just wondering why its soooo much money for a dual core cpu?  and do you think since it is only a dual core we might see a price drop anytime soon?why is the Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 so much money?
Only thing is the high clock speed (easily achievable with other cpus by oc%26#39;ing) and the unlocked multiplier.why is the Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 so much money?
its because its such a monster, i would expect price drop wen AMD release there stuff.
Core 2 duo have two cores. The X6800 I believe is Blomsfield, 4 cores clocked extremely fast, 8mb cache, and is not two c2d stapled together.
My bad, the quad core is Q6600. The x6800 is the fastest c2d.
that also why the X6800 is more expensive probably because of its clock speed.
[QUOTE=''yoyo462001'']that also why the X6800 is more expensive probably because of its clock speed.[/QUOTE]Because it is an EE, meaning the highest binned chips with an unlocked multiplier.
would you get this over the qx6700 becuase nothing really supports 4 cores right now?
[QUOTE=''yoyo462001''] that also why the X6800 is more expensive probably because of its clock speed.[/QUOTE] High stock clock + unlocked multiplier = heaven on a bun.
[QUOTE=''gregdpw'']would you get this over the qx6700 becuase nothing really supports 4 cores right now?[/QUOTE]No, the slight speed that the QX6700 lacks is worth the future-proofing it has to offer.
if i have the money should i just go with the qx6700 and be set for the future

One day i charged my 360 controller on my computers usb port

and now my comp wont , how do i say ... ''notice'' that i plugged in any usb devices any help? my comp can recognize my key board and my printer but other then that nothing , anytips to resolve this problem??

How do I watch a dvd with another region code?

I want to order a dvd from America but its a region 1 dvd and Australia is region 4. I heard you can unlock or bypass your region lock on a dvd drive on a pc with a program but I%26#39;m not really sure how to do it. I heard of this program called dvd43 but can that bypass all region locks and make it watchable?

Thanks. :) How do I watch a dvd with another region code?
AnyDVD I have it and it works great. How do I watch a dvd with another region code?
Awesome thank you.
Glad I could help :)

Comparing

Can anybody tell me which of these sticks of RAM to buy? The price is not an issue, just an issue of which is better.[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE%26N=2010170147%201052416064%201052308477%201395428464%26page=1%26bop=And%26CompareItemList=N82E16820145034%2CN82E16820145168]Here.[/url] Comparing
The only difference I%26#39;m seeing is the, DHX (Dual-path Heat Xchange) on the Dominator series.  I%26#39;d say just go with the cheaper set unless you had massive OC%26#39;ing in mind. Comparing
Ok, thanks.
Ummm... these are currently the best deal on memory right now:$102(after MIR) Crucial Ballistix 2x1gb DDR2 1000 5-5-5-15 (Micron D9) Cheap, fast and use high binned D9 ICs which means great overclocking ability. 
 [QUOTE=''LordEC911'']Ummm... these are currently the best deal on memory right now:$102(after MIR) Crucial Ballistix 2x1gb DDR2 1000 5-5-5-15 (Micron D9) Cheap, fast and use high binned D9 ICs which means great overclocking ability. [/QUOTE] Hell of a deal. get these 

Blocking Websites in Linksys WRT54G Router

I cant seem to block any websites on my router, i have entered keywords and the URL%26#39;s of websites that i want to block...but it wont work...ive let it power cycle but still no good...could anybody tell me what im doing wrongBlocking Websites in Linksys WRT54G Router
have you hit apply settings?Blocking Websites in Linksys WRT54G Router
Yes...''Setting were succesfully saved''
[QUOTE=''Chloera'']Yes...''Setting were succesfully saved''[/QUOTE]ok, does your firewall in your router support blocking sites by URL.? 

why is my computer slow now?

i have the fastest dsl available and when i first got my friend to build this custom PC it was lightning fast downloading videos on gaming sites, and lightning fast loading websites, but now it seems slow and sluggish. none of my parts are outdated or old, and like i said when i first got it, it was very fast. what can i do to make it lightning fast again?why is my computer slow now?
You can start by listing the specs, also, DSL is inherently inferior imo...why is my computer slow now?
clear the internet cache, and viewing history, stuff like that builds up over time.
say mean and hurtful things to it

the bees

I want to hook up my Computer to a 42 '; HDTV, what do I need. Anyone sugg

anything from newegg.  I get my stuff from there, but I dont%26#39; know what I need.  My Hdtv has HDMI on the back.  I want to buy a EVGA 7600 GT for my computer, but I don%26#39;t know what else I need to hook my computer up to my HDTV. Please help...I want to hook up my Computer to a 42 '; HDTV, what do I need. Anyone sugg
u can use that card, the S video cable it comes with u plug that into ur card then to ur HDTV. u gotta adjust the settings alot to get it right. u can also get the HDTV calbe that plugs into ur TV from ur video card. its better then Standard S video.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130062^^ look at the pic for the HDTV calbe for the GT. iam getting the same card. great valueI want to hook up my Computer to a 42 '; HDTV, what do I need. Anyone sugg
another thing the cable is suppppppppppper short man
Can%26#39;t I just buy a HDMI cable and just hook that up to the Hdmi connecto on the video card and hook that onto my HDTV with the same HDMI connecter. Oh yah, is there anything cheap and long HDMI cables?
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[QUOTE=''NoFear24'']anything from newegg. I get my stuff from there, but I dont%26#39; know what I need. My Hdtv has HDMI on the back. I want to buy a EVGA 7600 GT for my computer, but I don%26#39;t know what else I need to hook my computer up to my HDTV. Please help...[/QUOTE]check your HDTV for DVI or VGA slot.
VGA, DVI, and HDMI are your options (if your card has an HDMI output), ranking from lowest to highest quality.
Umm, maybe sunglasses?

Low Performance in Nvidia Demos !?

hello guys , I am having a low performance regarding the demos that come from nvidia , the demos that they make for each graphic card series , so right now I used Adrianne Demo %26 I got like 3 F/sec , %26 I then used the Geforce7 Demos (Luna %26 MadMod Mike), %26 the performance wwas the same !!! So i jumped eevn back to the GF6 series %26 used (Nalu , TimBury, Clear Sailling) %26 the performance mantianed the same !!! 3 Damn Frames/sec . :x

so does anyone have an idea . if these are the resullts that I am getting from those demos , then imagine my gaming performance :(

%26 with my hardware I should be able to use these Demos Cleary , but i cant, i tryed optimizing them %26 even lowering their graphics %26 I got 7 frames more .

I got real confused , so i even pushed back %26 downloaded the demo from the GeForce 256 era , %26 they got a performance of 45Frame . That%26#39;s deffinitly not good is it ???

so what%26#39;s the deal .

you can get these demos from here http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_nvidia.html .Low Performance in Nvidia Demos !?
bottlelnock?whats all your specs..? Low Performance in Nvidia Demos !?
Intel 965 RY --- Intel 945 PenD 3.4GHz --- X-Fi Xtreme Music --- 5.1 Inspire 5200  --- eVGA 8800 GTS 320MB  --- Elixer 2GB DDR2 667 --- TEAC DVD-RW 16x --- Normal : Mouse + Keyboard + Gamepad --- 17%26#39; Moniter (19'' - 20'' LCD Flat Widescreen Moniter soon) ---  OS Vista Ultimate --- Next Generation PC Gamer .

these are my PC spec. cant u see them :?:?
you can run games just fine, i got piss poor performance on that Nalu demo too on my 8600gt,
so what ur saying that this is normal ?? dont nvidia guys know about that , dont other people aso know about that ?

Good cooler for 7600GT/GS

Topic... my friend is getting a 7600GS and he wants to OC it to a 7600GT dont ask me why I tryed telling him to just get the GT so whats a good cheap fan for OCing btw its the EVGA oneGood cooler for 7600GT/GS
i dont know a fan, i do know a little arctic silver drops the temps down though :PGood cooler for 7600GT/GS
For the price he%26#39;s going to pay for a good fan, he might as well return that 7600GS for a 7600GT.
Heres a pci fan that helps cool down the gfx cardhttp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=120565%26CatId=804This thing on almost lowest setting will give you a 5c or close to 12f drop in temp And on medium setting its like 10c drop and max idk but this is the easiest way to cool down the gfx card. Ive never seen my GPU Temp get pass 65c/149f when I overclocked. But remember you got to have at least a pci slot open  on top and bottom of the pci fan so you dont choke the fans.
I was thinking of getting one myself my now could someone get one off a new egg? thanks
here you go its on newegg toohttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835888112  
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=75060 Just plain awesome, and it looks cool too.
[QUOTE=''04dcarraher'']here you go its on newegg toohttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835888112  [/QUOTE]



Thanks! I will definatly get that and reccomend it to my friend
[QUOTE=''LouieV13''][QUOTE=''04dcarraher''] here you go its on newegg toohttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835888112[/QUOTE] Thanks! I will definatly get that and reccomend it to my friend[/QUOTE] I prefer the VCool since it brings cooler air in. The Vantec one just blows air around...but that%26#39;s just me.
[QUOTE=''Staryoshi87''][QUOTE=''LouieV13''][QUOTE=''04dcarraher''] here you go its on newegg toohttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835888112[/QUOTE] Thanks! I will definatly get that and reccomend it to my friend[/QUOTE] I prefer the VCool since it brings cooler air in. The Vantec one just blows air around...but that%26#39;s just me.[/QUOTE] well if you leave a slot cover off under the pci fan it will get fresh air too

Bottlenecking SLI 7900GTs???

Hey, I was thinking about getting a second 7900GT to run in SLI with my current one sometime down the road, but I was wondering if my processor would bottleneck them. It%26#39;s an X2 4200+ overclocked to 2.3GHz (speed of the 4400+). So, is it worth getting the second 7900GT to run in SLI, or would it be hindered by my processor? Thanks. Full specs in sig. Bottlenecking SLI 7900GTs???
SLI is terrible. Me and my friends buy sli motherboards for bonfires and pooper scoopers. The performance gains aren%26#39;t enough to justify cost, and one good card outperforms two decent ones.Bottlenecking SLI 7900GTs???
[QUOTE=''imrlybord7'']SLI is terrible. Me and my friends buy sli motherboards for bonfires and pooper scoopers. The performance gains aren%26#39;t enough to justify cost, and one good card outperforms two decent ones.[/QUOTE]obviously you play at lower resolutions. 

To the OP, I would save the money and get a 8800 series card myself. 
Nope, it won%26#39;t bottleneck, but a single 8800GTS will easily outperform dual 7900GTs. Heck, the factory overclocked 640MB versions of the 8800GTS can usually outperform dual 7900GTXs.Saving your money %26#39;till you can get an 8800GTS would be a much better decision, IMHO.

Can I use this hard drive?

I currently have some really crappy 60 gig hard drive.  My friend is selling me a sata 7200 rpm 250 gig hard drive for 50 bucks, but my motherboard is old so i%26#39;m not sure if i can use it. http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1%26model=6That%26#39;s the link to my motherboard. Can I use this hard drive?
nice to know more bout the hdd too and it also depends on power supply box too, gotta have the sata connectors, cuz ide and sata connect differently to the power supply Can I use this hard drive?
I%26#39;m pretty sure I have sata connectors, I%26#39;m just wondering if my motherboard will allow me to use this hard drive because right now I%26#39;m using an ide hard drive.
it has two sata 150 connectors and you can get cable adapters for the psu. 
If you have sata connectorson your motherboard and have sata power connectors on your psu, then they can work side by side.

Is ';Zogis'; a good graphics card manufacture?

Newegg is selling a zogis 8800 gts 320 mb for $255 with a rebate. Is it a good copany or should I spend a little more and get an evga?Is ';Zogis'; a good graphics card manufacture?
Never heard of them.  The eVGA also has a rebate which makes it only $5 more.  I%26#39;d go with the eVGA for sure. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082[/url] Is ';Zogis'; a good graphics card manufacture?
Never heard of Zogis. I would just spend the extra $10, it%26#39;s a big investment and you don%26#39;t wanna screw yourself over.
man the names people come up with ZOGIS? that sounds a drink...
Sigoz would be more fun. Sounds pretty sweet...I think I%26#39;m going to use that for mmorpgs....mine!
[QUOTE=''Staryoshi87'']Sigoz would be more fun. Sounds pretty sweet...I think I%26#39;m going to use that for mmorpgs....mine![/QUOTE]Lol, Are you going to trademark it too?

[QUOTE=''el_carl''][QUOTE=''Staryoshi87'']Sigoz would be more fun. Sounds pretty sweet...I think I%26#39;m going to use that for mmorpgs....mine![/QUOTE]Lol, Are you going to trademark it too?
[/QUOTE] Patent Pending.
Zogis? Wow, never heard of them :)I always thought GeCube was cool manufacturer name. Coincidence, I remember first hearing about them around the same time the Gamecube came out.  
they are good
I have a Vanilla 6800 from Zogis sitting in my old Athlon XP 2800 box. So far so good, though it doesn%26#39;t overclock nearly as well as the other cards.
You guys can keep talking about weird company names, but I think I might buy the XFX version. It comes with GRAW and is overclocked. It is only $310... it all depends when I buy it and how much I spend.
[QUOTE=''el_carl'']You guys can keep talking about weird company names, but I think I might buy the XFX version. It comes with GRAW and is overclocked. It is only $310... it all depends when I buy it and how much I spend. [/QUOTE] Waste of money....
[QUOTE=''SSJBen''][QUOTE=''el_carl'']You guys can keep talking about weird company names, but I think I might buy the XFX version. It comes with GRAW and is overclocked. It is only $310... it all depends when I buy it and how much I spend. [/QUOTE] Waste of money....[/QUOTE]What is? GRAW? Or the overclocked version?

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Internet problems: Please help.

For some reason my internet will just randomly stop working for no reason. When I troubleshoot it of off MSN everything checks fine except DNS and another one, but I forgot what it was:(. After it was done troubleshooting it told me that my proxy could not connect properly to my IP...or something like that. To fix it I just unplugged my router and plugged it back in, but I%26#39;m afraid that it might happen again at any time. Any possible fixes? ThanksInternet problems: Please help.
BumpInternet problems: Please help.
power cycling your router is the main fix for this.
try switching to older drivers, thats worked for me before
I had the same freaking probleme with a router... I had no clue why i was geting disconnected while download and being on MSN.I just changed and got a better route. Now everything is working fine.I know it has something to do with ports, some routers have problemes opening alot of ports at the same time. 
[QUOTE=''CYSYKO'']power cycling your router is the main fix for this.[/QUOTE] Well, as you know, because you responded to my other topic...my router just died. I get the internet working again and then my router dies...ugh...that%26#39;s just my luck.

[QUOTE=''Lobster_Ear''][QUOTE=''CYSYKO'']power cycling your router is the main fix for this.[/QUOTE] Well, as you know, because you responded to my other topic...my router just died. I get the internet working again and then my router dies...ugh...that%26#39;s just my luck.
[/QUOTE]haha yea thats gotta suck majorly 
nothing to worry about really. could be your provider is doing some maintenence check their website see if your area is getting work done, that could explain it. could be a dying modem or cord, if theyre old. could be spyware too. never know haha

New Rig Issue

I just built a new system with a nForce 680i SLI, Core 2 Duo E6600, 2GB Corsair XMS2, and an 8800 GTS 640MB. When I turn on the computer I get to the screen which tells me to press delete for setup. When I press delete on the keyboard, nothing happens. I have tried a couple keyboards now. Is there something I forgot to plug in inside the case?Help appreciated. New Rig Issue
Were any of those keyboards PS/2 or were they all USB?New Rig Issue
[QUOTE=''RayvinAzn'']Were any of those keyboards PS/2 or were they all USB?[/QUOTE] That was my first question as well.
there should be a setting in the BIOS to allow USB keyboards, I%26#39;m guessing it has the ability anyways. I have a 975X Platinum mobo and I had the same problem till I figured this out... Good luck!
Also, I remember I was having some problems with wireless keyboards. They wouldn%26#39;t work while booting up, but they worked when i was in windows.
Both are PS/2, but the wireless keyboard is usb connected into a PS/2 adapter.
Use a regular PS/2 wired keyboard. Boot it up. It should be fine. Then later, change it in the bios to USB and switch keyboards.
hmmm I just booted it and it worked, so I did my BIOS settings, then reset to install vista, but the keyboard stopped working again. What does one beep indicate when booting up? 
[QUOTE=''firefly026'']hmmm I just booted it and it worked, so I did my BIOS settings, then reset to install vista, but the keyboard stopped working again. What does one beep indicate when booting up? [/QUOTE]you changed your bios settings to usb right? Then what keyboard are you using right now?Also, one beep indicates ''System ok, booting up'' or something along that line. 
[QUOTE=''firefly026'']hmmm I just booted it and it worked, so I did my BIOS settings, then reset to install vista, but the keyboard stopped working again. What does one beep indicate when booting up? [/QUOTE]One short beep generally indicates that your machine passed its POST with no problems. If I had to take a guess right now, I%26#39;d say there%26#39;s a chance that your motherboard%26#39;s PS/2 connector isn%26#39;t properly soldered to the board or some such.
make sure everything is plugged in, then flip the cmos, that sometimes works. sometimes it sticks on that screen if you have a bad hdd, did that to me last week.  cmos usually fixes a lot of problems like that unless its just a bad keyboard, but you said you tried several right

Temperature Question For a Geforce 7600

OK At idle its between 55-58c and while playing games it can get up to 65c Are these temps good,bad or just ok? Also my room temperture is Around 80 F or 26-27c. Temperature Question For a Geforce 7600
that is normal. u think u should cool ur room down tho. 80F!? hot manTemperature Question For a Geforce 7600
Cant do any thing with the weather lol
[QUOTE=''SiKh22'']that is normal. u think u should cool ur room down tho. 80F!? hot man[/QUOTE] Air Conditioning is man%26#39;s greatest invention. Period. Greenies be damned.
in ur room tho? get a fan man. did the trick for me. nice and cool and its like 90 here in california
LOL I have a ceiling fan + a Blizzard Fan from home depo which puts out lots of air and it by my window blowing air in
i have an AC window unit blowing into my computer lolz
temps depend on the card, im sure thats normal for your card. my 9800xt used to get up to 85 normally, and my 1900gt usually stays around 40
I%26#39;ve checked my temps a couple times and it tends to be in that range. (7600GTCO)  

My router just died...

For some unkown reason, it just decided to completely die for no reason. It was a linksys WRT54G V.6. I don%26#39;t know why. It won%26#39;t turn on at all. No lights or anything...so what router do you guys recommend I get next? A more reliable one that is good for xbox live gaming would be nice. Thanks. My router just died...
I would%26#39;ve suggested the Linksys WRT54G, but since that one pooped out on you, I%26#39;d suggest checking out D-Link%26#39;s DGL series router:[url]http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4315795;jsessionid=zheDu6xR8ODvvQm+h5tG4w**.node2?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG[/url]My router just died...
[QUOTE=''GamingMonkeyPC'']I would%26#39;ve suggested the Linksys WRT54G, but since that one pooped out on you, I%26#39;d suggest checking out D-Link%26#39;s DGL series router:[url]http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4315795;jsessionid=zheDu6xR8ODvvQm+h5tG4w**.node2?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG[/url][/QUOTE] That looks good, but it seems a little expensive.

linksys is usually the best when it comes to routers. how old was your router?
[QUOTE=''CYSYKO'']linksys is usually the best when it comes to routers. how old was your router? [/QUOTE] It wasn%26#39;t even a year old...

[QUOTE=''GamingMonkeyPC''] I would%26#39;ve suggested the Linksys WRT54G, but since that one pooped out on you, I%26#39;d suggest checking out D-Link%26#39;s DGL series router[/QUOTE] Mine died after about 4 years of use, so I recently picked up a new one. it%26#39;s very cost effective and almost always a solid performer IMO...I went with what worked ;)
50 bucks even at bestbuy? Hell yeah it%26#39;s sold.
[QUOTE=''Staryoshi87''][QUOTE=''GamingMonkeyPC''] I would%26#39;ve suggested the Linksys WRT54G, but since that one pooped out on you, I%26#39;d suggest checking out D-Link%26#39;s DGL series router[/QUOTE]
Mine died after about 4 years of use, so I recently picked up a new one. it%26#39;s very cost effective and almost always a solid performer IMO...I went with what worked ;)[/QUOTE] So do you have the WRT54G or the D-link?
[QUOTE=''Lobster_Ear''][QUOTE=''Staryoshi87''][QUOTE=''GamingMonkeyPC''] I would%26#39;ve suggested the Linksys WRT54G, but since that one pooped out on you, I%26#39;d suggest checking out D-Link%26#39;s DGL series router[/QUOTE] Mine died after about 4 years of use, so I recently picked up a new one. it%26#39;s very cost effective and almost always a solid performer IMO...I went with what worked ;)[/QUOTE] So do you have the WRT54G or the D-link? [/QUOTE] Oops, I can%26#39;t believe I forgot to include that. The 54G. Even at Bestbuy it only ran me 50 bucks.
[QUOTE=''Staryoshi87''][QUOTE=''Lobster_Ear''][QUOTE=''Staryoshi87''][QUOTE=''GamingMonkeyPC''] I would%26#39;ve suggested the Linksys WRT54G, but since that one pooped out on you, I%26#39;d suggest checking out D-Link%26#39;s DGL series router[/QUOTE] Mine died after about 4 years of use, so I recently picked up a new one. it%26#39;s very cost effective and almost always a solid performer IMO...I went with what worked ;)[/QUOTE] So do you have the WRT54G or the D-link? [/QUOTE] Oops, I can%26#39;t believe I forgot to include that. The 54G. Even at Bestbuy it only ran me 50 bucks.[/QUOTE] So do you think I should just re-buy the 54G or is there a better one that I should look into?

That Linksys router should still be under warranty. You may want to call them and tell them your story. I hope you registered it when you bought it.

more complaining. lolz!

Ive been playing alot of CSS lately and im dropping to 40fps with alot of players when some of my friends that I play with have a single 6600GT and have no lag. My symptoms are studdering in Half Life 2 when any type of exlotion goes off and in heavy firefights in CSS its like a slideshow. 
CPU Temp is 37C Max under loadGPU Temp is 45C Max under load more complaining. lolz!
[QUOTE=''_SKatEDiRt_''] Ive been playing alot of CSS lately and im dropping to 40fps with alot of players when some of my friends that I play with have a single 6600GT and have no lag. My symptoms are studdering in Half Life 2 when any type of exlotion goes off and in heavy firefights in CSS its like a slideshow. CPU Temp is 37C Max under loadGPU Temp is 45C Max under load [/QUOTE]When was the last time you formatted?  What are the settings at?more complaining. lolz!
[QUOTE=''Taijiquan''][QUOTE=''_SKatEDiRt_''] Ive been playing alot of CSS lately and im dropping to 40fps with alot of players when some of my friends that I play with have a single 6600GT and have no lag. My symptoms are studdering in Half Life 2 when any type of exlotion goes off and in heavy firefights in CSS its like a slideshow. CPU Temp is 37C Max under loadGPU Temp is 45C Max under load [/QUOTE]When was the last time you formatted? What are the settings at?[/QUOTE]Everything high, 2xAA, 4xAF, vsync- disabled, HDR-off, color correction -off 
[QUOTE=''_SKatEDiRt_''][QUOTE=''Taijiquan''][QUOTE=''_SKatEDiRt_''] Ive been playing alot of CSS lately and im dropping to 40fps with alot of players when some of my friends that I play with have a single 6600GT and have no lag. My symptoms are studdering in Half Life 2 when any type of exlotion goes off and in heavy firefights in CSS its like a slideshow. CPU Temp is 37C Max under loadGPU Temp is 45C Max under load [/QUOTE]When was the last time you formatted? What are the settings at?[/QUOTE]Everything high, 2xAA, 4xAF, vsync- disabled, HDR-off, color correction -off [/QUOTE]Yea, something is up.  When did you format last?
[QUOTE=''Taijiquan''][QUOTE=''_SKatEDiRt_''][QUOTE=''Taijiquan''][QUOTE=''_SKatEDiRt_''] Ive been playing alot of CSS lately and im dropping to 40fps with alot of players when some of my friends that I play with have a single 6600GT and have no lag. My symptoms are studdering in Half Life 2 when any type of exlotion goes off and in heavy firefights in CSS its like a slideshow. CPU Temp is 37C Max under loadGPU Temp is 45C Max under load [/QUOTE]When was the last time you formatted? What are the settings at?[/QUOTE]Everything high, 2xAA, 4xAF, vsync- disabled, HDR-off, color correction -off [/QUOTE]Yea, something is up. When did you format last?[/QUOTE]about a month or so ago. I have formatted my hdd about 5 times now. the last format that I did was a quick format. I don%26#39;t know if that matters. 
Reformatting is truly a last resort. Scan for viruses, spware, trojans, and other malware. 
[QUOTE=''Rusteater'']Reformatting is truly a last resort. Scan for viruses, spware, trojans, and other malware. [/QUOTE]\I run scans every night and its on a schedule. I have AVG Free, Webroot Spy Sweeper, Spyware Cleaner, and MCaffe 
Hmm, I get performance only a little bit  worse than that with a 2.4ghz P4, 6600GT, and a way underpowered 220w compaq psu. Something is definately wrong.
[QUOTE=''Heretic32'']Hmm, I get performance only a little bit worse than that with a 2.4ghz P4, 6600GT, and a way underpowered 220w compaq psu. Something is definately wrong.[/QUOTE]well i get 118fps in the CSS stress test. and this is @1280x1024

Well that seems pretty good in the stress test since I get around 80. Have you tried different drivers?
[QUOTE=''Heretic32'']Well that seems pretty good in the stress test since I get around 80. Have you tried different drivers?[/QUOTE]yeah its the same with all the drivers unfortunately. I just thought that the X1950pro would have been a lot better.  
does this happen with other games?
[QUOTE=''Nosecandy68'']does this happen with other games?[/QUOTE]Yes, Quake 4. I was just playing and it was getting in the 25-30s but I do not have vsync on.  

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler Quick question, does one need to remove the motherboard for installation of this cooler? (i.e. does it have a backplate?)The price finally normalized, so it%26#39;s quite tempting :)ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
Also, which way does the fan blow air? Across the heatsink or away from it? Thanks ;)ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
[QUOTE=''Staryoshi87'']Also, which way does the fan blow air? Across the heatsink or away from it? Thanks ;)[/QUOTE] http://www.arctic-cooling.com/cpu2.php?idx=79%26disc= 
[QUOTE=''Staryoshi87'']ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler Quick question, does one need to remove the motherboard for installation of this cooler? (i.e. does it have a backplate?)The price finally normalized, so it%26#39;s quite tempting :)[/QUOTE] http://www.arctic-cooling.com/downloads/installation/install_freezer7pro.pdf  With a little bit of research we can find anything. 

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Best psu for 60 pounds?

topicand please could it be form dabs.com because thats where im getting the rest of my stuff.Best psu for 60 pounds?
depends on what u need it for.. wow that site got no OCZ psu.. wow antec and corsair are good tho.. be sure to check net for reviews whenever u buy hardware for a computer btw Best psu for 60 pounds?
If you could go to 75 there%26#39;s http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=4B0M%26CategorySelectedId=11259%26NavigationKey=11259,50113%26InMerch=1Otherwise...http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=450Q%26CategorySelectedId=11259%26NavigationKey=11259,12Maybe somethin like that perhaps. What is it going to be powering?
I think that the P.S.U. is one of the most important pieces of computer hardware. My suggestion is to save until you can get a very good P.S.U. unless you feel that this will be a long time because of your budget.

500 watt PSU for 8800 gts?

I%26#39;m looking at this , will it be explodifying if I run a 8800 GTS on it?500 watt PSU for 8800 gts?
That%26#39;ll be fine.500 watt PSU for 8800 gts?
ya.. itll be aiight, but id go fro 600-700 if i were u, i just like to be 100% sure with peak%26#39;s and such
dude 600-700? for peak. pc%26#39;s with a 800GTS dont even use that. its around 400 at full load.
[QUOTE=''SiKh22'']dude 600-700? for peak. pc%26#39;s with a 800GTS dont even use that. its around 400 at full load.[/QUOTE] not according to this gts needs over 300w just for itself not including all other pc components
[QUOTE=''Arch_Demonz''][QUOTE=''SiKh22'']dude 600-700? for peak. pc%26#39;s with a 800GTS dont even use that. its around 400 at full load.[/QUOTE] not according to this gts needs over 300w just for itself not including all other pc components [/QUOTE]Are you kidding me..... that%26#39;s the WHOLE system power requirement minus the display monitor... quote: ''Our power consumption readings reflect our findings above. Here we are measuring the power being consumed by the system at the wall socket. The display is not included in these numbers.'' Not by the card itself.....sheeze, failure to read the article.... and its IMPOSSIBLE for the card to draw 300w by itself to begin with, the maximum it can ever draw is 75w from the pci-e x16 slot + 75w from the molex pci-e connector = 150w MAX.
Better go with one of these just to be on the safe side. http://wf-3v.en.alibaba.com/product/50254652/51324936/
300? dude u get stuff mixed up. 300 watts lol
[QUOTE=''jfelisario''][QUOTE=''Arch_Demonz''] [QUOTE=''SiKh22'']dude 600-700? for peak. pc%26#39;s with a 800GTS dont even use that. its around 400 at full load.[/QUOTE] ^^^^he is a prefect example. cause iam remember reading when he posted, he has a 375 or near PSU. he runs the card man. :)not according to this gts needs over 300w just for itself not including all other pc components [/QUOTE]Are you kidding me..... that%26#39;s the WHOLE system power requirement minus the display monitor... quote: ''Our power consumption readings reflect our findings above. Here we are measuring the power being consumed by the system at the wall socket. The display is not included in these numbers.'' Not by the card itself.....sheeze, failure to read the article.... and its IMPOSSIBLE for the card to draw 300w by itself to begin with, the maximum it can ever draw is 75w from the pci-e x16 slot + 75w from the molex pci-e connector = 150w MAX. [/QUOTE]
yeh misread, its 3am gimma break cant know everything, very hard. yeh did more studyin, 500-600 to be totally sure tho, 400w is sort of a minimum requirement. dont forget to get a good power surge protection power bar to plug all this into, also very important thing to have when u got a pc, cant just plug it into the wall 
lol :)
[QUOTE=''SiKh22''][QUOTE=''jfelisario''][QUOTE=''Arch_Demonz''] [QUOTE=''SiKh22'']dude 600-700? for peak. pc%26#39;s with a 800GTS dont even use that. its around 400 at full load.[/QUOTE] ^^^^he is a prefect example. cause iam remember reading when he posted, he has a 375 or near PSU. he runs the card man. :)not according to this gts needs over 300w just for itself not including all other pc components [/QUOTE]Are you kidding me..... that%26#39;s the WHOLE system power requirement minus the display monitor... quote: ''Our power consumption readings reflect our findings above. Here we are measuring the power being consumed by the system at the wall socket. The display is not included in these numbers.'' Not by the card itself.....sheeze, failure to read the article.... and its IMPOSSIBLE for the card to draw 300w by itself to begin with, the maximum it can ever draw is 75w from the pci-e x16 slot + 75w from the molex pci-e connector = 150w MAX. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]@Sihk22 lol running the gtx on that thing... :)@Arch_DemonzLol ok..... caffeine is a good friend in those situations. :) 
[QUOTE=''jfelisario''][QUOTE=''SiKh22''][QUOTE=''jfelisario''][QUOTE=''Arch_Demonz''] [QUOTE=''SiKh22'']dude 600-700? for peak. pc%26#39;s with a 800GTS dont even use that. its around 400 at full load.[/QUOTE] ^^^^he is a prefect example. cause iam remember reading when he posted, he has a 375 or near PSU. he runs the card man. :)not according to this gts needs over 300w just for itself not including all other pc components [/QUOTE]Are you kidding me..... that%26#39;s the WHOLE system power requirement minus the display monitor... quote: ''Our power consumption readings reflect our findings above. Here we are measuring the power being consumed by the system at the wall socket. The display is not included in these numbers.'' Not by the card itself.....sheeze, failure to read the article.... and its IMPOSSIBLE for the card to draw 300w by itself to begin with, the maximum it can ever draw is 75w from the pci-e x16 slot + 75w from the molex pci-e connector = 150w MAX. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]@Sihk22 lol running the gtx on that thing... :)@Arch_DemonzLol ok..... caffeine is a good friend in those situations. :) [/QUOTE] tru, im usually right tho, just had my **** confused, all good

X2900XT seems to be coming to retailers soon now...

Browsed around the net and found this:[url]http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-2900XT[/url]Looking forward to seeing some official benchmarks soon.X2900XT seems to be coming to retailers soon now...
how the...thats really fast, they arent even out yet...someone should order one. personally im waiting till reviews.X2900XT seems to be coming to retailers soon now...
$410?  Cool.
Why does it say x2900xt when AMD stated the official name is HD2900xt?
because maybe they really don%26#39;t have it? lol
But its a OEM package

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Dell GX270

HiSomeone has asked me to either upgrade his current Dell Optiplex GX270 or to completely build him a new computer. Is it possible to give this computer a good upgrade. He uses it to surf the net and plays games such as Sim City 4. He is a historian and uses it to look up stuff there aswell> Can you please recommend? Also, what would I look for in RAM apart from capacity? Is it true that PC3 RAM is comming out this year and you can get PC3 12500 RAM?Dell GX270
Can anyone help?Dell GX270
PC3 RAm is comming but I don%26#39;t know the speeds.I think he should build a new computer.Bcoz the CPU is Pentium 4 (I think CPU is PGA 478), I think no PCI-Express slot, Not DDR2.These day they were old.(DDR, AGP 8x, SATA 150, PGA 478)  
Here are the specs on the computer:http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx270/en/ug/specs.htm  As you can see the video card slot is only a AGP 3.0 and the power supply about 210w.  I would suggest that you build a new system, there%26#39;s not much to work with here. IMO.
Ok, thanks for the help.

Something is wrong with media player!

When i was watchint game play movie there is no sound. Whats wrong with this? and only gamespot movie does not have sound.... when i check in ign there was sound.Something is wrong with media player!
you might need a codec. as to which one i have no clue

Mouse HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really want the MX Revolution Mouse because of all the buttions and great feel I would be using it for fps and rts games i herd that if u use a certin prog u can config the second scroller so i can use it to like reload guns or somethin does anyone have any experience with this mouse. any problems with batery life? sensativity? also would i be able to use this mouse with the Razer eXactMat mousepad?Link to MX Revolution: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104015Link to Razer eXactMat mousepad: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817114323Mouse HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey mate, Almost all games will have a setting in the controll options that will allow you to change what the second scroll wheel does. I use side buttons on my MX500 for grenades, reloading etc..... Mouse HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=''Samulies'']Hey mate, Almost all games will have a setting in the controll options that will allow you to change what the second scroll wheel does. I use side buttons on my MX500 for grenades, reloading etc..... [/QUOTE]I%26#39;ve mad my MX series mouse going on 5 years now. i love this mouse. the battery life on it is excellent. you might have to get used to it if youve used an optical mouse for awhile but its woth it. MX mice rule!!!!! 
Great mouse...and it will work on the exactpad...got one myself and it works fine

The Best Deal?

I%26#39;m thinking about buying a new PC but i%26#39;m not sure about how much i should be spending on stuff, I%26#39;ve drawn up a spec on a website and i was wondering if someone could give me an idea of how much this sort of setup should cost? This is the spec - tower only no peripherals built including tax and deliv. Processor (CPU)INTEL® Core 2 Duo E6600 (2 X 2.40GHz) 1066MHz FSB/4MB L2 Cache Memory (RAM)2048 MB CORSAIR DDR2 667MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY! (2x1GB) MotherboardASUS® P5ND2 SE: DUAL DDR2, S-ATA, x16 VGA, 2 PCI/3 PCI-E Operating SystemWINDOWS® VISTA Home Premium (inc Genuine CD %26 License) USB Options6 x USB 2.0 PORTS (4 REAR + 2 FRONT) AS STANDARD Memory - 1st Hard Disk250GB SERIAL ATA II HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (7200rpm) 2nd Hard DiskNONE 1st CD/DVD Drive20x DVD±RW/RAM/Dual Layer + Lightscribe (48 x CD-RW) 2nd CD/DVD DriveNONE Graphics Card320MB GEFORCE 8800GTS PCI Express + DVI + TV-OUT 2nd Graphics CardNONE Sound Card6 Channel RealTek Azalia AD1986A Audio (Standard on P5ND2 SE) ModemNONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND Network FacilitiesONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (ETHERNET) Floppy Disk Drive1.44MB - 3.5'' Floppy Disk Drive Memory Card ReaderNONE CaseStylish Black/Silver Trident case + 2 front USB Power Supply %26 Case Cooling600W Quiet Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan Processor CoolingSUPER QUIET 19 dBA INTEL CPU COOLER Any help appreciated  The Best Deal?
that setup is similar to mine and should cost around $1000 U.S.The Best Deal?
very nice! but if i were u get this PSU. raidmax not to good.i think that psu u listed is like 60 bucks or near ? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817189014active PFC^^^

Ravenshield fps dropping down to 40ish at times?

My system%26#39;s specs are down below with vista home premium. Sometimes my fps goes down to about 40ish fps but I am kinda assuming I should be at a solid 60fps about most of the time because of my high end stuff. Any ideas why it goes down? All the stuff is set to high but it%26#39;s an old game.Ravenshield fps dropping down to 40ish at times?
40 frames is good. your worrying about nothing.Ravenshield fps dropping down to 40ish at times?
[QUOTE=''MercenaryKnight'']My system%26#39;s specs are down below with vista home premium. Sometimes my fps goes down to about 40ish fps but I am kinda assuming I should be at a solid 60fps about most of the time because of my high end stuff. Any ideas why it goes down? All the stuff is set to high but it%26#39;s an old game.[/QUOTE]How are other games though? 
Ravenshied?  Wow, I%26#39;m glad to know I%26#39;m not the only one playing that game on a Quad.  I think its STILL one of the best FPS out there despite its age.  TANGO DOWN! What resolution are you running?  What OS?  What video drivers?  What patch of Ravenshield?
iam probably wrong but it could be vista. alot of ppl on the fourms have complained that its not a good OS for gaming yet or at all.  they have said that their preformance drops alot. so that could be it........

Best Deal For AGP

I%26#39;m upgrading my AGP video card again. I want something around a 7800, for ~$150 :). Anything you guys can recommend?  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143046 This is what im looking at right now, but i%26#39;d like to get it cheaperBest Deal For AGP
Are you set on getting an nVidia card?...Cuz ATI has some cards that are AGP and believe are better than the 7800GS....I may be wrong thoughBest Deal For AGP
I think i might stick with nvidia just because it%26#39;s what i%26#39;m used to. I dont want any problems. but how much better would ati be for the same price? I%26#39;m also going to upgrade my psu. This is what i was looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817702003When i reading the specs on it, it says ''PCI-E connectors 2x6pin'' What does that mean, and will it be a problem since im using agp? :D maybe a stupid question but i dont want annny problems lol
This card is wayyyyyy better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161071
i think i found the card to buy and its a ATI :D http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102093Good? :D just how do i completely remove nvidia drivers and replace it with ATI? also what ati drivers should i use cause i know there some different types (community made dirvers or something)
[QUOTE=''zero9167''] i think i found the card to buy and its a ATI :D http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102093Good? :D just how do i completely remove nvidia drivers and replace it with ATI? also what ati drivers should i use cause i know there some different types (community made dirvers or something) [/QUOTE]ye it%26#39;s decent and use Driver Cleaner Pro to fully get rid of the old drivers ^^
Use a program like DCP to get rid of the drivers, oh and that card is the best AGP you can get at the moment.
sweet thanks. i just ordered it :D i cant wait!!! right now im playing on a 6600 LE rofl
Also what would be the best drivers for the x1950GT?

question about upgrading our hard drive

hi i just got a new laptop and it has an 80 gig 7200 RPM hard drive, i thought this would be enough because i have an external to hold all my misc. crap..... however after getting it i have found that after vista is installed and all the programs and stuff i only have about 48 gigabytes to work with... i highly doubt this is going to be enough so i want to upgrade... im wondering though... if i backup all my stuff onto another hard drive and then switch them will it be the exact same settings and everything as before the switch? or will i have to do all my settings and everything all over again?question about upgrading our hard drive
youll lose any windows settings and stuff of course.  if youre going to put it back on the new harddrive then youll have to reinstall meaning yes youll lose everything unless you backup like profiles for things like firefox or thunderbird or games, etc.  im not positive, prove me wrong, but i dont think you can just copy and past program files and then put it back on the new hdd and work, i dont think it works like that. i just backup all the exe%26#39;s and my saved profiles for programs and games, so reinstalling windows on a new hdd takes like 5 min to get it where it was after installing windows, drivers, and updatesquestion about upgrading our hard drive
ok thanks, i guess ill just stick with this one and try to keep the ammount of crap to a minimum
[QUOTE=''ncderek'']youll lose any windows settings and stuff of course. if youre going to put it back on the new harddrive then youll have to reinstall meaning yes youll lose everything unless you backup like profiles for things like firefox or thunderbird or games, etc. im not positive, prove me wrong, but i dont think you can just copy and past program files and then put it back on the new hdd and work, i dont think it works like that. i just backup all the exe%26#39;s and my saved profiles for programs and games, so reinstalling windows on a new hdd takes like 5 min to get it where it was after installing windows, drivers, and updates[/QUOTE]if you just copy and paste its not going to work. you have to use a process called ''ghosting''. ghosting mirrors the hard drive bit for bit onto another hard drive. i know norton makes a ghosting utility. but if you were to ghost your current laptop drive, then put the ghost image on your new one you would be good to go.  
oh cool, ill have to check into that because that seems like exactly what i want, so your saying that putting the ghost drive in would be identical to the one i have now?
Look up Norton Ghost on google, it will do the job, it just copies your hard drive exactly as it is onto another one...
[QUOTE=''patsimms111'']oh cool, ill have to check into that because that seems like exactly what i want, so your saying that putting the ghost drive in would be identical to the one i have now?[/QUOTE]yup. its an exact copy of your hard drive. the norton one is pretty good a lot of enterprise orginizations use it. 
does norton ghost cost money? and does it save it all to one file that you re-drag and open up and sort of download? how does it work?
[QUOTE=''ncderek'']does norton ghost cost money? and does it save it all to one file that you re-drag and open up and sort of download? how does it work?[/QUOTE]yes it does cost money. what you would do is ghost a hard drive, then you could slave the blank drive and use the norton to copy the image over.  
I use Acronis True Image 10 over Norton%26#39;s Ghost altough I have both applicaions. Acronis also makes a program called Migrate Easy which may be all you need to get the job done. Worth a look. 

AMD Roadmap.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2986 Here%26#39;s hoping for some CPU success from AMD.AMD Roadmap.
Hmmm...interestingAMD Roadmap.
At the very least it should make things interesting.
Seeing that AMD is making their own chipsets now (courtesy of owning ATi), I hope they don%26#39;t also forget that nVidia still currently makes the best chipsets for their 939/AM2 systems.

Sound Problem Please Help

My game and movie sounds wont work system sounds work and when I hook up my 360 to my monitor and comp speakers I get sound. I tried going to control panel and checking the volume controls but it says no mixer device is available what can I do to get sound back for my games and movies?Sound Problem Please Help
install the driversSound Problem Please Help
My first thought would be to load the proper drivers...but I%26#39;m somewhat confused by your message.  Are you trying to hook up a 360 to your monitor and use your comp speakers?  I%26#39;m not familiar with the XBOX 360%26#39;s setup or compatabilities.  But usually, if the 360 has a headphone jack on it anywhere, and you%26#39;re using 2.1 comp speakers, you would plug it in there and you shouldn%26#39;t have to load any drivers.  Didn%26#39;t know you could load drivers on a 360 to begin with.  But again, I%26#39;m not sure.
load the drivers

the bees

P35 FSB Awesomeness

Really looking forward to this chipset with my X6800! This ain%26#39;t even the enthusiast board so I%26#39;m crossing my fingers for more awesome results in their OC%26#39;ing boards hehe :DGigabyte P35-DS3R does 575MHz FSB out of Box! P35 FSB Awesomeness
[QUOTE=''jfelisario''] Really looking forward to this chipset with my X6800! This ain%26#39;t even the enthusiast board so I%26#39;m crossing my fingers for more awesome results in their OC%26#39;ing boards hehe :DGigabyte P35-DS3R does 575MHz FSB out of Box! [/QUOTE] Hopefully I can get these clocks.  Mine will be here Tues.

[Question] RAiD 0 or not?

I%26#39;m thinking about setting up a raid-0 configuration with four harddisks. Although I%26#39;m not really sure if it gives me that much more performance. What I do know is that it significantly decreases the reading/writing time. Also I%26#39;m aware about the data loss if only one of the four harddisks crashes. But that isn%26#39;t really a problem for me since I backup my stuff nearly daily to an external source.But now the question is, should I take a raid-0 configuration or not? I%26#39;m planning to install Windows Vista Home Premium (64-bit, again) so a format is needed anyway, but does a raid-0 setup improve my gaming and my overall performance?And if I even consider to setup a raid-0 configuration, what type of harddisks should I use? Four 10k RPM harddisks or is 7.2k RPM more then enough? I%26#39;m willing to use four harddisks in the raid-0 configuration so that I atleast have plenty of storage. :)EDIT: *I%26#39;m willing to buy four SATA II harddisks* Here%26#39;s a list of my current system hardware:CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2,13GHz (Soon to be overclocked)GPU: Sparkle Geforce 8800GTX (Soon to be overclocked)RAM: 4GB @ 800MHz in Dual Channel modeMobo: ASUS P5B DeluxeHDD: 1x WD 160GB (7,2k RPM) S-ATA II
[Question] RAiD 0 or not?
If you%26#39;re going to buy 4 HDDs then go for RAID5 or RAID10. At least they offer some data protection.Also, make sure your southbridge is the Intel ICH8R (note the R for RAID) before you buy 4 HDDs....and yes, it would make more sense to buy four 7200 RPM HDDs. EDIT: Just noticed that the board is the P5B DELUXE, so it%26#39;ll definitely have the ICH8R SB. :P I thought the OP just had a P5B. EDIT2: ****ing glicthspot is acting up again.  [Question] RAiD 0 or not?
[QUOTE=''Wesker776'']If you%26#39;re going to buy 4 HDDs then go for RAID5 or RAID10. At least they offer some data protection.Also, make sure your southbridge is the Intel ICH8R (note the R for RAID) before you buy 4 HDDs....and yes, it would make more sense to buy four 7200 RPM HDDs. [/QUOTE]Yes follow Wesker%26#39;s advice, by doing RAID 0 solely, in all practicality you are ''doubling'' your failure rate, as when one hdd tanks, you are out for the count, unless you have some sort of redundancy like what Wesker suggested. 
This is all the information I could find about my motherboard: Click hereI%26#39;m not really sure what this means:[quote=''ASUS.com'']Dual RAIDThe Intel P965 chipsets incorporate six Serial ATA connectors with high performance RAID functions in RAID 0, 1, 5 and 10. The JMicron controller provides another two Serial ATA connectors for RAID 0, 1, and JBOD functions. This motherboard is the ideal solution to enhance hard disk performance and data back up protection without the cost of add-on cards.[/quote]But where I%26#39;m aiming for is maximum performance with four harddisks, I%26#39;m not afraid to let my system crash since I make daily backups. ;) I also found a comparison list, remember that I have the P5B Deluxe and not the WiFi-AP version: Click here
[QUOTE=''StraiN-ShifTeD'']This is all the information I could find about my motherboard: Click hereI%26#39;m not really sure what this means:[quote=''ASUS.com'']Dual RAIDThe Intel P965 chipsets incorporate six Serial ATA connectors with high performance RAID functions in RAID 0, 1, 5 and 10. The JMicron controller provides another two Serial ATA connectors for RAID 0, 1, and JBOD functions. This motherboard is the ideal solution to enhance hard disk performance and data back up protection without the cost of add-on cards.[/quote]But where I%26#39;m aiming for is maximum performance with four harddisks, I%26#39;m not afraid to let my system crash since I make daily backups. ;)
[/QUOTE]Well your choice, frankly I%26#39;ve tried Raid 0 out, makes virtually 0 gaming impact save the loading times, but its not like its not fast enough with my setup haha.... oh and the uber quick Windows loading time (really.. who cares...) Just trying to get you to not have to deal with the frustrating restoration process and the time you have to spend doing it.
[QUOTE=''StraiN-ShifTeD'']This is all the information I could find about my motherboard: Click hereI%26#39;m not really sure what this means:[quote=''ASUS.com'']Dual RAIDThe Intel P965 chipsets incorporate six Serial ATA connectors with high performance RAID functions in RAID 0, 1, 5 and 10. The JMicron controller provides another two Serial ATA connectors for RAID 0, 1, and JBOD functions. This motherboard is the ideal solution to enhance hard disk performance and data back up protection without the cost of add-on cards.[/quote]But where I%26#39;m aiming for is maximum performance with four harddisks, I%26#39;m not afraid to let my system crash since I make daily backups. ;)
[/QUOTE] Yeah, I editted my message because I just noticed that you had the DELUXE version. Sorry for the confusion. :PFor max security and performance, I would go for RAID10. Two 500GB HDDs and two 250GB HDDs should do the trick.More info:
http://www.acnc.com/04_01_10.html  
I%26#39;ve had quite a lot of computers but I never had one that had a failing harddisk or one giving error messages. So I%26#39;m not worried about getting errors in a raid-0 setup. It%26#39;s probably because I know what I%26#39;m doing when I%26#39;m editing something in (for example) the registry. I know fairly everything about Windows XP/Windows Vista and how to tweak these. And I%26#39;m the only one using this computer, so there%26#39;s nothing to worry about I guess. :)But according to several other sources they recommend me to use the ICH8R controller instead of the JMicron one. I read that the JMicron controller is a pretty bad controller, so if this is true I%26#39;ll just use the ICH8R controller. What do you guys say about the JMicron controller?
i%26#39;d listen to the other guys man, by having four disks in raid 0 you have no fault tolerance. if one thing goes bad you are F%26#39;ed.

How do I use 2 Monitors at once?

I just bought a lovely 22 inch Samsung lcd monitor today, its amazing, and i dont get my harddrive back for another week (it%26#39;s being replaced) but i wanted to prepare for when it does so i dont have to ask about this then, ill already be ready for it. im wondering how to set up dual monitors.i have this 22 inch lcd, and a 19 inch crt monitor. is that ok? theres 2 slots on the back of my vid card for monitors, so im guessing the 1st step is to plug both in, but of course the screen will still be on my monitor that ive been using, what do i do then? how do i set up so both monitors are used? how does it work? how do i move one mouse to the next? how do i play a game on one monitor and use aim an internet on another? can both use dvi cords with an adapter to fit on my 1900gt? please give me a detailed step by step way to do this! thanks for the help, im excited to be able to do this.
also, by having dual monitors, is it going to take up move power from my vid card, as in will it work my video card a lot harder than usual or will it not really matter? will it work my cpu harder or anything else? thanks! How do I use 2 Monitors at once?
Here [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/hwandprograms/monitors.mspx[/url]How do I use 2 Monitors at once?
If you are using two desktops, then your vid card will be more stressed. If you stretch your desktop over the two monitors, it will not be stressed more.My 7900 GS comes with dual monitor software. It is nvidia however, i dunno how a ati works over 2 monitors though. 
ok a couple of more questions now that i know how to set it up. if i select expand window or whatever, itll have like 1 desktop over 2 monitors and when you maximize a window itll take up the whole screen of the monitor your mouse is in right? that way aim and email or internet can be in one monitor and a game can be the other right? that way a game isnt on both monitors or half on 1 monitor and half on the other right? also, can you set a button to move from monitor to monitor that way you dont accidently move your mouse to far? thanks for the help
[QUOTE=''ncderek'']ok a couple of more questions now that i know how to set it up. if i select expand window or whatever, itll have like 1 desktop over 2 monitors and when you maximize a window itll take up the whole screen of the monitor your mouse is in right? that way aim and email or internet can be in one monitor and a game can be the other right? that way a game isnt on both monitors or half on 1 monitor and half on the other right? also, can you set a button to move from monitor to monitor that way you dont accidently move your mouse to far? thanks for the help[/QUOTE]bump 
[QUOTE=''ncderek'']ok a couple of more questions now that i know how to set it up. if i select expand window or whatever, itll have like 1 desktop over 2 monitors and when you maximize a window itll take up the whole screen of the monitor your mouse is in right? that way aim and email or internet can be in one monitor and a game can be the other right? that way a game isnt on both monitors or half on 1 monitor and half on the other right? also, can you set a button to move from monitor to monitor that way you dont accidently move your mouse to far? thanks for the help[/QUOTE] Wow, that%26#39;s like 50 questions in one little paragraph. :P 1. When you expand a window, it generally expands on the monitor that your mouse is on, but some application have little bugs that wll expand them only on the primary monitor. You can also do an extended desktop set up so that when you expand a window it goes over both of the monitors. It%26#39;s a little weird that way but some apps do benefit from that. 2. Yes, you can have a movie playing on one screen and AIM or a browser on the other. Convenience at its best. ;) 3. Playing games on dual monitors isn%26#39;t the best idea unless that game supports dual monitors. The thing is that sometimes the mouse doesn%26#39;t get locked into the one screen so your mouse can go onto the other monitor and you%26#39;re gonna have problems turning in FPS or moving the screen on some RTS games.4. You move from screen to screen by just moving your mouse past the first screen. You%26#39;ll see what I mean when you set it up. I don%26#39;t know if your dual-monitor software is a little more feature-rich than the one I have but I don%26#39;t get that option so I don%26#39;t know about that. Maybe you can find some third-party software. 
i would never have a game on more than one monitor, so as long as i do that, my video card wont work any harder?thanks for your help, and how likely will my mouse roll over to the other by accident when playing a game? 

What is 24x Filter Anti-Aliasing???

I know of 16x AA is 24x Custom Filter Anti-Aliasing really 24 x AA in that sense or is it something different? and if so is it really needed or even noticable difference lol. link http://realworldbenchmarks.com/newsitem.php?id=269 it has to do with the X2900 XT What is 24x Filter Anti-Aliasing???
or is it talking about the hardware anti aliasing filter on the chip rather then the software. What is 24x Filter Anti-Aliasing???
I dunno, but 24x AA is a little ridiculous... I can%26#39;t even tell much of a difference between 8x and 16x.

nVidia or AMD ? the real discussion.

This thread is quite a simple idea, it works like this:If you think nvidia are the best: - 2 reasons why nvidia are best - 2 reasons why AMD are worstIf you think AMD/ATI are the best: - 2 reason why AMD are best - 2 reasons why nvidia are worstFeel free to add coments but dont post unless you give your reasons. (if you cant think of 2 reasons then give 1)I hope you enjoy this discussion :DnVidia or AMD ? the real discussion.
i got AMD 5200 X2.. just cuz i wanted to give AMD a go..  supposedly intel is better for OC%26#39;n nVidia or AMD ? the real discussion.
[QUOTE=''Arch_Demonz''] i got AMD 5200 X2.. just cuz i wanted to give AMD a go..  supposedly intel is better for OC%26#39;n [/QUOTE]i said give reason. LOL.Its just that i know there will be a load of spammers just going '' oo R600, R600'' or '' oo 8800, 8800''
[QUOTE=''hamza_jedi''][QUOTE=''Arch_Demonz''] i got AMD 5200 X2.. just cuz i wanted to give AMD a go..  supposedly intel is better for OC%26#39;n [/QUOTE]i said give reason. LOL.Its just that i know there will be a load of spammers just going '' oo R600, R600'' or '' oo 8800, 8800''[/QUOTE] OC is a reason why people buy intel now days, why they say it better than amd 
i like nvidia because they are the veterans of GPU makers where as ATI/AMD is still new. So i feel better with nvidia. second reason is that ATI always gets their asses kicked by nvidia(except for the 9800 era) 
[QUOTE=''Arch_Demonz''][QUOTE=''hamza_jedi''][QUOTE=''Arch_Demonz''] i got AMD 5200 X2.. just cuz i wanted to give AMD a go..  supposedly intel is better for OC%26#39;n [/QUOTE]i said give reason. LOL.Its just that i know there will be a load of spammers just going '' oo R600, R600'' or '' oo 8800, 8800''[/QUOTE] were talkin bout cpu not gpu.. and OC is a reason why people buy intel now days [/QUOTE]I did make this thread so im sure i know what its about.Re- readWe are talking about GPU NOT CPU.The reason i wrote AMD/ATI is so there was no confusion and people knew this thread is about GPU.
[QUOTE=''hamza_jedi''][QUOTE=''Arch_Demonz''][QUOTE=''hamza_jedi''][QUOTE=''Arch_Demonz''] i got AMD 5200 X2.. just cuz i wanted to give AMD a go..  supposedly intel is better for OC%26#39;n [/QUOTE]i said give reason. LOL.Its just that i know there will be a load of spammers just going '' oo R600, R600'' or '' oo 8800, 8800''[/QUOTE] were talkin bout cpu not gpu.. and OC is a reason why people buy intel now days [/QUOTE]I did make this thread so im sure i know what its about.Re- readWe are talking about GPU NOT CPU.The reason i wrote AMD/ATI is so there was no confusion and people knew this thread is about GPU.[/QUOTE] Man you should change the Thread name to  nVidia or ATI, Intel or AMD.Not like nVidia or AMD. 
yeh topic was badly titled and that, could have been presented better, would be less confusing

Well, the title does make sense, as ATi are now a division of AMD.
[QUOTE=''General_Gustaf'']Well, the title does make sense, as ATi are now a division of AMD. [/QUOTE]Yes I know that but ATI stll exist with AMD. In that case he should change the title to nVidia or ATI/AMD.nVidia or AMD means GPUs or Processors
he should change the title to ''what should the title be?''
Intel is better as it runs considerably coolerIntel is better as it runs significantly fasterIntel has more bang for the buckIntel has a higher roof of overclockingIntel is about to switch to 45nm chips and also will have a double quad with 8 coresNvidia has better driver support (so ive heard)its really a question of which ice cream flavor do you like.....video cards a preference but nvidia has the lead atm...as far as ati is concerned, there is news that the x2900 is performing underpar but there is no efficient data to back up that claim
im not a fanboy of anything, i just go for the best, i think the reason why Nvidia have more fans it because nvidia have moe options of GPU imo, they tend to have products for the non Pc gamer would like imo
I think neither of them remain constantly the best, Currently however I have noticed that all the support forum I go to are jam packed and overflowing with geforce 8 complaints. I was thinking of getting a 8800 but after reading some complaints i might wait for ati.
[QUOTE=''TheDarthvader''] i like nvidia because they are the veterans of GPU makers where as ATI/AMD is still new. So i feel better with nvidia. second reason is that ATI always gets their asses kicked by nvidia(except for the 9800 era) [/QUOTE]Actually, ATI%26#39;s been around much longer than nVidia. ATI%26#39;s been around since 1985, and nVidia%26#39;s from 1994ish. 
[QUOTE=''TheDarthvader'']i like nvidia because they are the veterans of GPU makers where as ATI/AMD is still new. So i feel better with nvidia. second reason is that ATI always gets their asses kicked by nvidia(except for the 9800 era) [/QUOTE]ATI has been making graphics cards since the %26#39;80s,  Nvidia didn%26#39;t get started until the %26#39;90s.And ATI topped performance charts with the X1900 generation as well - Nvidia held the midrange, but it was outclassed when you compared the 7900GT to the X1900XT, or the X1950XT to the 7950GT.
[QUOTE=''TheDarthvader'']i like nvidia because they are the veterans of GPU makers where as ATI/AMD is still new. So i feel better with nvidia. second reason is that ATI always gets their asses kicked by nvidia(except for the 9800 era) [/QUOTE]  I wouldn%26#39;t call ATI new, I mean they have been around since the 80%26#39;s. I prefer ATI before the purchase by AMD due to the fact that they are Canadian (Got to have some canadian pride) and that I have always found quality in their products. Nvidia on the other hand have also treated me well over the years but I prefer ATI as with my experience with Nvidia, I tend to have more technical issues with their products. (Not just my problems, only really had one, but friends/family/colleges problems that I had to solve.) Plus, they ramp up the price of a product that shouldn%26#39;t be so expensive. 
nVidia because of the 8800 and Green > Red =P
[QUOTE=''RayvinAzn''][QUOTE=''TheDarthvader'']i like nvidia because they are the veterans of GPU makers where as ATI/AMD is still new. So i feel better with nvidia. second reason is that ATI always gets their asses kicked by nvidia(except for the 9800 era) [/QUOTE]ATI has been making graphics cards since the %26#39;80s, Nvidia didn%26#39;t get started until the %26#39;90s.And ATI topped performance charts with the X1900 generation as well - Nvidia held the midrange, but it was outclassed when you compared the 7900GT to the X1900XT, or the X1950XT to the 7950GT. [/QUOTE]the X1900 and X1800 were horrible cards. horrible coolers, horrible PCB%26#39;s which became overly hot and took away too much power. dont you ever wonder why a X1900GT is worth 110$ when a 7600GT is still expensive?? 
[QUOTE=''TheDarthvader'']the X1900 and X1800 were horrible cards. horrible coolers, horrible PCB%26#39;s which became overly hot and took away too much power. dont you ever wonder why a X1900GT is worth 110$ when a 7600GT is still expensive?? [/QUOTE]The reference cooler wasn%26#39;t great - but the ICEQ 3 cooler solved pretty much every single one of those problems. And the card still outperformed the 7900 series, or are you going to argue against that point? 

can a 8800gts fit in this coolermasters case

http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/product.php?productid=555%26cat=531%26page=1can a 8800gts fit in this coolermasters case
Yes, why not?can a 8800gts fit in this coolermasters case
While the new GPU's are a bit larger, they still fit a regular ATX case perfectly, so you won't have any trouble fitting it in that case.
i had a friend who bought one and it didnt fit in his mid-atx case. he had to get a full. so just be careful
If your harddrive(s) sticks out where the vga card is supposed to be, it may not be able to fit in there.

I had to place my harddrive at a different spot.
[QUOTE=''BounceDK'']If your harddrive(s) sticks out where the vga card is supposed to be, it may not be able to fit in there. I had to place my harddrive at a different spot.[/QUOTE] Yup, happened to me.  Not a big deal though, just move your hard drive.  Unless you have a full rack of HDDs.  In which case, I guess find a bigger one.
I just got all my parts to build my new rig and man is the 640MB 8800GTS one huge card, and I mean HUGE. Yes it will fit in that case. I have to wait on my tower. I got it yesterday and had to send it back because the front was almost busted all the way off. I can%26#39;t wait to get this thing put together. Wait until you see how big the card is.
[QUOTE=''mcflurry4321''] [QUOTE=''BounceDK'']If your harddrive(s) sticks out where the vga card is supposed to be, it may not be able to fit in there. I had to place my harddrive at a different spot.[/QUOTE] Yup, happened to me.  Not a big deal though, just move your hard drive.  Unless you have a full rack of HDDs.  In which case, I guess find a bigger one. [/QUOTE]i only have one HDD
[QUOTE=''Chris_53''][QUOTE=''mcflurry4321''] [QUOTE=''BounceDK'']If your harddrive(s) sticks out where the vga card is supposed to be, it may not be able to fit in there. I had to place my harddrive at a different spot.[/QUOTE] Yup, happened to me. Not a big deal though, just move your hard drive. Unless you have a full rack of HDDs. In which case, I guess find a bigger one. [/QUOTE]i only have one HDD[/QUOTE]

Then it's not going to be a problem. If the GPU and HDD are just at the same height, they propably won't fit in the case next to each other, since both the hardware and the power plugs will take up too much room. Just making some room by putting the HDD one place lower or higher solves this.
ok thanks

Computer Upgrade

I need help in deciding a computer upgrade because I have only two options. My Current Specs

• A64 3200+ Winchester Core
• Gigabyte K8n Ultra Sli Motherboard
• XFX 7800GT
• Kingston 512*4 DDR 400MHZ RAM

The two options

1. Intel Core 2 Duo E6600, Kingston 512MB*4 DDR2 667MHZ RAM and Intel 965 Motherboard
2. XFX 8800GTS 320MB

I can only afford one of the above choices and I am a PC gamer so what would be better for the next 6 months. Computer Upgrade
Why not opt for 2 x 1GB sticks?Computer Upgrade
I can go for that as well but first i need to know which option is better =( its a tough decision.
You%26#39;d be better getting your cpu, ram, and mobo, and then getting a gpu...since there is no dx 10 games out there, there is no rush, and ATI 2900 series (and probably nvidia dx 10 2nd generation) will probably ship cards by the time your piggy bank fills up ;)
I agree, get the CPU, mobo, and RAM now. That 7800GT will last you until some DX10 games are actually out, and the prices on those GPUs will be cheaper.
I%26#39;mma have to go w/the CPU, ram, and mobo option as well ;)
I have an xbox 360 as well. and about the processor i heard that AMD is releasing its next version of CPUs. Computer Upgrade are soo damn hectic !!!
[QUOTE=''shaheir'']I have an xbox 360 as well. and about the processor i heard that AMD is releasing its next version of CPUs. Computer Upgrade are soo damn hectic !!! [/QUOTE]Yep, there%26#39;s always going to be something better right around the corner. You could end up waiting forever and never feel confident with what you buy.  Best advice is to do you research and spend your money wisely.  Whatever you get isn%26#39;t going to be obsolete tomorrow.  Maybe the day after though :) 
i would do the 1st option, first of all those parts have been out for a while so they are at such a great price right now. the 8800 is still new and expensive and there are no games that even need a card like that yet. so do option 1 now, and maybe in 6 months to a year get a nice direct x 10 card, theyll be so cheap when ati%26#39;s comes out
okay then ill get the proc upgrade and tell me is nvidia 650i better than intel 965 ? if yes by how much ?

New PC - Need Parts Advice

I am planning to build a new PC and have some of the basics picked out.CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 Dual Core Processor LGA775 Conroe 2.13GHZ 1066FSB 4MB Retail RAM - Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-5400C4 2GB 2X1GB PC5400 DDR2-667 CL 4-4-4-12 240PIN Dual Channel Memory  I am planning to run at mild overclock to 2.66GHz CPU clock - 1334FSB (sync to 667RAM) For now, I will just use my existing Radeon X1900AIW card.Looking for a good, but inexpensive mobo that will support up to PC6400/DDR800... was thinking maybe Asus P5B???Also, can I run with 4x1GB RAM - and have all the memory recognized by Windows XP (32 bit)? Thanks for any help!New PC - Need Parts Advice
no to the windows xp recongnizing 4gb of ram, you need 64-bit. i prefer the asus p5b motherboards they are good but others will suggest better overclockers. but for a mild overclock asus will defiinitly be a good choice New PC - Need Parts Advice
Asus is a solid choice.  P5B Deluxe would definitely not dissapoint. If you didn%26#39;t need something that fancy, you could look at the P5B-E.  That%26#39;s what I%26#39;ll be purchasing next month.
Yep the P5B-E is a really nice board.  And it%26#39;s just a little over 100 bucks so it%26#39;s great in the value department too.
The P5B-E costs about $40 (Canadian) more than the P5B.  Looks like the only difference is 7 SATA instead of 5, RAID support and Firewire.  I%26#39;m not planning to use RAID, won%26#39;t need more than 5SATA devices and have firewire on my Audigy card... If overclocking capabilities and stability are comparable, I think I%26#39;m better off with the P5B.Is the stock HSF good enough for an OC to 2.66GHz?
The stock HSF should be fine as long as you don%26#39;t need to raise the voltage to get it to 2.66.  And as far as the P5B vs the P5B-E, the P5B-E has a little better OC potention iirc.
Yes asus P5B deluxe is very good but you can also try an gigabyte 965P-DS4

the bees

fix my USB! (please)

hii am gettin really somethinged off with my computer, because everytime i plug my mp3 player into a usb slot, it restarts then windows wont open until i unplug it again. this also happens when my bro plugs in his phone, and i bought a usb  mouse, which didn%26#39;t cause it to restart straight away but did crash later on while playing BF2142. strangely it doesnt restart with the printer plugged in :S. iv already tried uninstalling the ports in device manager but that did nothing. any ideas what could be the problem? fix my USB! (please)
dodgy drivers? try reinstalling themfix my USB! (please)
Before we can get started with helping you fix your USB problem there is some additional information we will need first.

• Do you get an error message when the device is connected to your PC? If so, what is it (the more specific the better)?
  
• What operating system are you using (If using Windows 2K or XP please include the service pack information)?
• What Brand and model of Motherboard are you using?
• What Brand/Model of MP3 player, phone, mouse are you using?
• Have you checked for updated Chipset drivers for you Motherboard?
• Have you checked with the Manufacturer of your Motherboard/OS/USB devices to see if there are any known compatability issues?

Hope that helps. If not post the information requested above here in this thread and we will see what we can do to get ya fixed up.-D_J
[QUOTE=''da1n_br4m4g3d'']Before we can get started with helping you fix your USB problem there is some additional information we will need first.

• Do you get an error message when the device is connected to your PC? If so, what is it (the more specific the better)?
  
• What operating system are you using (If using Windows 2K or XP please include the service pack information)?
• What Brand and model of Motherboard are you using?
• What Brand/Model of MP3 player, phone, mouse are you using?
• Have you checked for updated Chipset drivers for you Motherboard?
• Have you checked with the Manufacturer of your Motherboard/OS/USB devices to see if there are any known compatability issues?

Hope that helps. If not post the information requested above here in this thread and we will see what we can do to get ya fixed up.-D_J [/QUOTE] 1. no, it just restarts instantly2. windows XP, sp2 i believe3. im using an ASRock (it says on the front of the box P4S61, but i couldnt find it on the website downloads section)4. the mp3 is a samsung YP-75, the phone is a sony ericson w810i, and i cant remember what make the mouse was5. as stated i couldn%26#39;t find anywhere to dl drivers from on the website6. i THINK the usb devices are SiS (even though they are built into the mobo) any ideas? ps thanks for such a quick/comprehensive reply :)
oh yeh and i forgot to mention the SiS website is down

Power Supply calculator

I found a web page that looks like it does a fairly complete job of calculating your power supply needs that%26#39;s worth checking out - http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine.I got there through Antec%26#39;s web site in case you can%26#39;t access the page directly. Power Supply calculator
yep i had that bookmarked when i first ran into it... it really is great, and can pretty much prove that even the most hungriest of setups don%26#39;t need those rediculous 1000watter psus.....Power Supply calculator
most people will be suprised when they calculate their power, most people go out and get 600 and 700 watt psu%26#39;s and ive even seen people buy 1000watts psu%26#39;s bc they claim they plan on upgrading to sli one day. haha. most people use about 300 watts of power at any given time, and those with the newest cards and processors out probably use closer to 400, and those with sli around 450. like i said, most people will be suprised. my rig uses 319
i was paranoid with 450 watt ps with all the threads on this forum. that calculator suggested 380, so I think I'm ok :)

advice for new comp?

im plannin on gettin a new comp in a few weeks time from www.pcoption.co.uk, i was wondering what u guys thought of the specsE66002 gigs 800 mhz ram320 gb 7200 rpm hdCoolermaster igreen 600w sli psuasus 8800gts 320mbmsi p6n sli-fi motherboardwin xp would that motherboard support pernyn or whatever that new core thats gonna come out later calledalso was considerin vista for dx10 but heard too many bad things as well as rumours of a new os called vienna, has the situation on vista improved at all?im not sure what to do about monitor i could get a 17 inch monitor and the whole thing wouldd cost me around 800 quid (1600 dollars) or i could get a samsung 226bw 22 inch which is hdcp compliant for a total of around 1000 quid (2000 dollars), if i brought the 22 inch would the 8800gts 320 meg version b ok for a native res of 1680 x 1050 altho tbh im used to gaming at 800 x 600 so these big res%26#39;s seem like overkill to me, is the hdcp compliant thing worth it? i wud like to b able to get a hd drive once the format war is over and if i brought the 22 inch i wouldnt have ne plans for another monitor in the forseeable futureadvice for new comp?
nope... looks like the penyrn%26#39;s will be using lower voltages so you%26#39;d need a voltage regulator-down for that. as for vienna, no word, M$ is slowly but surely fixing out all the kinks in vista, sp1 looks to be out by Novemberish.... but its more to do with nvidia dropping the ball with the drivers though. get the 22in monitor, its not overkill, its perfect for the card, playing at 800x600 really is a waste on that card.advice for new comp?
^ exactly
voltage regulator? whats that? what wud i need for a compatible system/mobo? so is vista a negative for gamers? cuz i was plannin on gettin vista once they got the bugs fixed but since im gonna purchase xp with this comp i might as well get it? i have a copy of xp at home i cud dual boot altho with one hd not sure how to do that, altho id prefer to just have vista from the start if there arent too many problems, whats the situation with the nvidia drivers? is it totally unplayable in vista?
seems liek a good rig, get the 22 inch one, lol 800*600, dont worry i doubt you%26#39;ll ever thave to use res ever again on the GTS.
[QUOTE=''noproblem0'']voltage regulator? whats that? what wud i need for a compatible system/mobo? so is vista a negative for gamers? cuz i was plannin on gettin vista once they got the bugs fixed but since im gonna purchase xp with this comp i might as well get it? i have a copy of xp at home i cud dual boot altho with one hd not sure how to do that, altho id prefer to just have vista from the start if there arent too many problems, whats the situation with the nvidia drivers? is it totally unplayable in vista?[/QUOTE]the voltage regulator regulates the voltage coming in to your chip, and when you compare say the core 2 duo vs penyrn, the penyrn should require less voltage, so if you pop it in a core 2 duo mobo, it might not work since it works with the higher voltages. You might want to look at the Intel P35 board if you are really interested in penyrn and DDR3 tech, though DDR3 is exhorbitantly expensive, especially in the first few months of its release. vista is playable, you usually will get a few frames less than on xp, don%26#39;t count much on sli performance though. dual booting is a snap... just make sure you have a program like PartitionMagic, or better yet, two hard drives, but if going the single drive route, just partition a portion of the hdd for vista, and once you%26#39;ve installed xp, pop in the vista disc and go for a clean install into the partition. I%26#39;d hit up dual booting the system, especially since you have a good-sized hdd for it.
if i dual booted, what size partitions shud i make? also if i loaded up xp wud i still b able to play ne games installed in the vista partition? seein as im gettin it custom built vista might be pre-installed does that matter? cud i install xp second or wud i have to wipe vista first? also wud i b able to upgrade to the quad cores instead of the pernyns with that mobo later?
well it depends on which one you%26#39;d want to put most of your apps in, so if vista, allocate more gigs to it, and vice versa, its really arbitrary so you can make that call. I think you need to make a shortcut of the program between os%26#39;s to cross-run that program. well i checked on the egg, there%26#39;s no quad support apparently.....
i suppose i%26#39;d want more space for vista but use xp till vista is sorted however long that may be, vista seems like a lot of hassle, do u think its worth it for the dx10? or i cud just uninstall vista once i get it, install xp and upgrade laterDo u think it wud b better to get vista with the new system or xp2 considerin that my home version of xp is a haxed one?
easy on the discussion of haxed xp disks, but do what jfelisario  said,  do a partition. I would just cut your drive in half, allocate half to vista, half to xp. Is dx10 wirth the hassle of vista, idk man, I mean only a handful of games coming out support it, drivers are messed up, who knows. IMO, you have a kick ass system there, just install xp, and forget vista. if your custom pc comes with it pre-installed, then request if you can have a hard copy of it. Or tell the builders to create the partitions for you...